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re: Facebook Justice for a non collar dog shot
Posted on 1/15/16 at 2:32 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
Posted on 1/15/16 at 2:32 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
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you better be ready to have the finger pointed at you... Or in the case of one acquaintance, a 30-30 rifle pointed at him.
This is the catch 22 isn't it?
Most of us would like to be good neighbors and politely ask our neighbors to keep their dogs on their properties, to follow the proper process and get authorities involved, and handle it without resulting to a bullet. But if you do any of that you can 100% bet that all fingers will be pointed at you when the dog goes missing even if you truly had nothing to do with it.
In most cases it is best to let things just work them selves out. We have had many dogs on out lease over the years with and without collars that only made a single appearance and went on their way un harmed. Heck, I had two dogs within 30 yards of my bow stand 40 min before I shot my first buck with a bow. Neither collared. They never knew I was there and all ended well. Sadly, many people also drop off unwanted dogs in our area. Some get taken in (like my wifes lab/border collie mix), some wander off, some get hit on the hwy. doing damage to vehicles and potentially causing wrecks, and a select few are put down.
I have also had two un-collared pit mixes run our lease for over 3 weeks. They were seen in person and on game cameras chasing deer, hogs, and calves. They "belonged" to a neighbor up the road who had 15-20 dogs that he kept in front of his run down shack. The property owner had asked him several times to keep them off the property and even brought the SO out to speak to him once. Unfortunately, SO said they had to be witnessed in person by SO on our land for them to do anything and that camera footage would not suffice. The property owner/rancher rolled one that was chasing a calf from his tractor a few weeks later. The other was found on the road pretty mangled with at least one through and through chest wound.
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 3:07 pm to Bleeding purple
Acquaintance of mine had a cow/calf operation on leased land. The neighbors had a pile of dog, most pit mixes and used a bunch for hog hunting. HE visited them and was not polite at all about it and told them to keep their fricking dogs out of his pasture because if a calf comes up dead there would be hell to pay. Next time he saw the dogs he again went to them and this time when he knocked on the door he was met with a 30-30 in the chest. Apparently someone else had sent a Carbon Express through one of the dogs and now this guy was to blame. A shaking 50 yr old woman with her finger on the trigger will make you regret certain life choices so ive been told,
Posted on 1/15/16 at 3:19 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
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A shaking 50 yr old woman with her finger on the trigger
Posted on 1/15/16 at 4:42 pm to ForeverLSU02
Like I was saying, don't ask don't tell isn't ethical but keeps you out of hot water when stuff goes bad.
And see, he put himself in a bad spot. He was standing on her property on her porch and presumably unarmmed. If they point a gun at you on your own property it's a different story tactically and legally.
And see, he put himself in a bad spot. He was standing on her property on her porch and presumably unarmmed. If they point a gun at you on your own property it's a different story tactically and legally.
This post was edited on 1/15/16 at 4:49 pm
Posted on 1/15/16 at 4:50 pm to Bleeding purple
Why not trap them and let the SO come out while the owner gets his pooch out the trap? Something about having to get their dog off a chain somehow makes them want to put it on one.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 6:00 pm to angus1838
Believe it or not, trapping a stray is not legal unless you catch it by accident in a predator set while targeting yotes. Because, when it was entering the trap it was not harrassing livestock, damaging crops, or presenting a threat to anyone. Not to mention the leg style traps injure the dog.
Domesticated dogs are also difficult the trap in general. Even a mangy mutt is a pretty smart animal. Traps that are designed to harmlessly catch and retain a large dog can inadvertently catch a calf, hunting dogs, and or the owners dogs which are rightfully on the property.
Simply put, it is a very difficult situation for a land owner or renter when someone repeatedly allows their animals to cause problems on your property.
Domesticated dogs are also difficult the trap in general. Even a mangy mutt is a pretty smart animal. Traps that are designed to harmlessly catch and retain a large dog can inadvertently catch a calf, hunting dogs, and or the owners dogs which are rightfully on the property.
Simply put, it is a very difficult situation for a land owner or renter when someone repeatedly allows their animals to cause problems on your property.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 6:21 pm to Coach in Waiting
The guy also was hunting without a license
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 6:35 pm to Coach in Waiting
Alright, which one of you is posting comments in that article as Jamar?
Posted on 1/15/16 at 6:37 pm to Coach in Waiting
So arrested and $10,000 bond for shooting a dog that no one is even claiming.
Lol, smh.
Throw the book at him for hunting without a license and shame him for being a stupid and acting and airing his poorly received actions on FB.
Lol, smh.
Throw the book at him for hunting without a license and shame him for being a stupid and acting and airing his poorly received actions on FB.
This post was edited on 1/15/16 at 7:24 pm
Posted on 1/15/16 at 6:46 pm to Mr Wonderful
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I don't care what kind of lease it is. What can't you understand about keeping YOUR dog on YOUR property. I'm not going to shoot a neighbor's pet the first time I see it (as I previously stated). But if you're running dogs next door and they're are CONTINUOUSLY coming onto my property, they're going to get dropped.
What a badass. I know you're full of shite, but I hope you don't shoot the wrong person's dog someday. Or maybe I hope that you do.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 6:58 pm to Bleeding purple
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Not to mention the leg style traps injure the dog.
You undoubtledly need to learn about traps. They are leg holds not leg breaks.
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inadvertently catch a calf,
Never have caught a calf in a trap in all the years I have been trapping
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Domesticated dogs are also difficult the trap in general
I am sure that some of the other trappers on here will point out that catching a fox or coyote is 2x more difficult than a domestic dog or mangy mutt. I say this cause I own land and trap and own hunting dogs. I have lurked for a long time and don't post much and when i see your username I automatically respect what you have to say. Just like when ole geauxt posts i know i am going to laugh. May not agree but will laugh. Just do some research before you down trapping as a cruel method
Posted on 1/15/16 at 7:04 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Lol at some of the people in this thread that think a dog should just be able to roam wherever it wants, whenever it wants.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 7:22 pm to angus1838
I've done some trapping of nuisance animals but never tried to trap someone's "pet". I know the leg traps are designed to catch and not damage the pelt but they still do some times based on what I see on the net. I have caught calves, deer, a yote, and a coonhound in cage style pig traps un-intentionally. The one guy from here that came out and showed me how to leg trap yotes, told me hunting dogs generally will leave his sets alone even though he catches plenty of fox and yotes. However, I have not used leg traps so have limited experience. And if in your experience hunting dogs are prone to getting caught in traps, it is even more reason to not use a trap on a hunting property to try to manage an unattended neighbors mutt.
Also, if a trap is employed as the sole method and the invading dog is too busy chasing livestock to go find a trap and get caught, the property owner just has to suffer the damages while waiting.
That being said, it is still illegal in TX to intentionally trap or posess someone's animal, as I initally noted.
Also, if a trap is employed as the sole method and the invading dog is too busy chasing livestock to go find a trap and get caught, the property owner just has to suffer the damages while waiting.
That being said, it is still illegal in TX to intentionally trap or posess someone's animal, as I initally noted.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 8:15 pm to Mr Wonderful
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Lol at some of the people in this thread that think a dog should just be able to roam wherever it wants, whenever it wants.
Lol at you thinking you can shoot whatever you want whenever you want. Like I said, hopefully someday you shoot the wrong dog.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 8:49 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Can and will podna. A dog continuously roaming on thousands of acres of woods is no different than a hog or coyote. It's a wild animal if it "lives" in the wild.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 9:43 pm to Mr Wonderful
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Can and will podna.
You're so bad arse.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 9:57 pm to Mr Wonderful
since your man enough to shoot a dog if it's collared make sure your man enough to hand deliver it to the owners...i know what would happen at my house
This post was edited on 1/15/16 at 9:58 pm
Posted on 1/15/16 at 10:06 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
As a deer hunting landowner in southern MS, Desoto NF, I have had dogs on my property. I love the ones that run a deer by me. I loved the ones that showed up at night skinny as hell, ate some red beans n sausage, slept under the camper and ran deer in the morning. I liked the ones that ate my chicken gumbo but were to shy to hang around. But the one that turned his nose up at my seafood gumbo pissed me off. I hate a picky hound dog.
We have shot feral dogs in the woods in the past. We shot our own sick dogs in the past.
But to shoot a family's pet or another man's hunting dog is just wrong. I don't care how much your hunt cost you.
We have shot feral dogs in the woods in the past. We shot our own sick dogs in the past.
But to shoot a family's pet or another man's hunting dog is just wrong. I don't care how much your hunt cost you.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 10:09 pm to Bleeding purple
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I've done some trapping of nuisance animals
As in "hundreds of wild hogs"?
Posted on 1/15/16 at 10:14 pm to Ace Midnight
And some coons, skunks, squirrles, feral cats, and one river otter.
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