re: F250?

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Whats i dont understand about the 6.0"s is that they are so hit and miss. I had a friend who bought one from the same dealership on the same day and he had nothing but problems after the first month. Ford ended up buying it back

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That always seemed to be the word on those. It always seems like the guys that got good ones will argue until their death that the 6.0 is a great engine. Screw that. They're definately hit or miss. The 06 6.0 that was in our family had 33,000 miles put on it in 11 months with zero issues, the 07 had the common dissappearing coolant issue likely due to stretched headstuds before 50,000 miles. A buddy of mine's father has a 04 6.0 with over 200,000 miles thats also starting to burn coolant.

I'll hang on to my 03 7.3 as a collectors item...maybe I'll run it across Barrett Jackson one day. The older (01ish) Plantinum edition F250s will always be one of the finest trucks ever made.

I wish. When I was looking for a diesel I missed out on one. Mine is just a plain looking F350 crew cab single wheel long bed Lariat. 2 wheel drive


Mine looks exactly like this but 2wd currently still full of dust and equipment from Mudfest.

Stay away from the 6.0

Oh, and for the record, Diesel's truck is a damn fine truck. On par with any F250 I've seen. I did hunt with a guy from Arizona who had a white mega cab that was f'n gorgeous.

I've owned a 7.3 and now own 06 6.0 psd. 7.3 is way more reliable with less maintainence and way less known issues.

Honestly I wouldn't get a 6.0 or a 6.4 knowing what I now know

No love for a duramax around here? I'm on my 2nd one and have loved them both. Rides better than any Ford or Dodge.

After reading all this and the link from earlier I think I'll start looking for a duramax

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Did they kick you in the nutz too? That really sucks.

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FWIW, I was in Chicago 8 months last year working (and in Chicago working again right now, for that matter). I had no choice but to get it done QUICKLY. I did however call my hometown dealership to get THEIR price for the same repairs. It was about $325 cheaper, but that's the difference in Chicago IL and Purvis MS. I had to get it done...then I had to stay up here longer to pay for it!

Duramax is an Isuzu Diesel and I don't really know much about them.

6.0 and 7.3 I know more about so here goes.
The 7.3 was quite simply a beast of a motor. The only issues for the fords that had em was certain granny's were pro to failure prior to 100k miles The fuel injectors in the 7.3 have orifices large enough to burn the most viscous of fuel including home made biodiesel.

Our beloved government decided to change the law regarding diesel emissions effective for 2003 I believe. Subsequently Ford applied pressure to international who made the 7.3 to get the 6.0 ready. You see international had already had 6.0 in ambulances and small busses with good
results. However, those 6.0's fall were not subjected to the emissions control systems the residential 6.0 would have.

When the 03 & 04 6.0's rolled out many had major issues. Wire harnesses were rubbing the engine at points causing major issues. But the worst was the the EGR emission system. EGR stand for exhaust gas recirculating system. I don't know what brain scientist came up with it but diesels, even running on low sulfer diesel, have dirty exhaust. This exhaust is partially returned to the engine causing premature turbo failure and additional heat to the engines operation. Also the EGR coolers which use coolant through radiant exchange to cool down the oil also fail and when that happens the damage could result in blown head gaskets as well as EGR cooler and oil cooler replacement. Or even catastrophic engine death.

I'm my opinion Ford improve on the 06 and 07 6.0's but only to a point. Many of the same issues will occur just at a later mileage.

Ford experienced many lawsuits over the early 6.0 motor and they then switched to the 6.4. It too has had issues. In 2011 ford has decided to manufacture their own psd motor. Jury is still out

Btw rumor has it that ford has for along time owned cummins. I don't know if that's true or not. Internet rumors have Toyota and Nissan talking to cummins to see which one will make a half ton diesel first.

Back a few years ago I remember Toyota releasing their concept of a 1 ton diesel dually back in 2007 or 2008 or so. From what I remember reading Toyota was about to pull the trigger to put it into production right before diesel went from about $1.50/gal to $3.00+/gal. After that the diesel market fell behind a little but so they scrapped the project.


What sucks the most about recent Ford diesels(6.4 and 6.7) is that since they're so new it'll be a few years before you can honestly determine of they're a quality engine. A majority of these are way under 100,000 miles and it'll be years before you start seeing these engines with 200,000+ on them. It's hard to live up to the hype of the 7.3. While less powerful, 300,000+ on orginal engines is pretty impressive and may be hard for modern diesels to live up to.