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Elk hunting case before the Supreme Court

Posted on 2/15/19 at 4:09 pm
Posted by arbe25
Member since Sep 2017
388 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 4:09 pm
You guys see this.

link to meateater article

Bunch of BS if you ask me. How long are we going to have separate rules for different groups in this country? Another 10 years? 100 years?

One of the most interesting parts of the case, in my opinion, is the fact that most of the animals these native Americans poached were wasted. Oh, and the fact that one of them was a game warden.
Posted by Stateguy
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
887 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 6:54 pm to
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animals these native Americans poached were wasted


would say that's exactly right. the poaching game warden said he was doing it to feed his family and the game warden who caught him found an elk "only thing that had been taken was a little bit of backstraps and head had been removed". Now this doesn't mean it's the same poacher, but definitely shady.
Posted by Manatee
Mandeville
Member since Oct 2011
414 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 9:03 pm to
Was fly fishing a blue ribbon trout stream in Idaho that was catch and release single barbless hook and came upon a Native American gentleman using corn and yanking 20+ inch cutthroat trout out of the same hole. Had them with a stick through the gills like old times. My local friend said they do not obey any WLF laws.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 10:09 pm to
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Was fly fishing a blue ribbon trout stream in Idaho that was catch and release single barbless hook and came upon a Native American gentleman using corn and yanking 20+ inch cutthroat trout out of the same hole. Had them with a stick through the gills like old times. My local friend said they do not obey any WLF laws.


Seems like we can let them have at least one win
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12715 posts
Posted on 2/16/19 at 7:46 am to
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How long are we going to have separate rules for different groups in this country? Another 10 years? 100 years?

I'm just going to play Devil's Advocate here. You do remember that many of these people were run of their lands by European settlers, right? And that many of them were forced to settle on reservations, sometimes outside of their Nation's home territory?

Many tribes were given some form of hunting and fishing rights. Trying to say "times have changed, frick you" would be a bad move right now, and ultimately would be a huge loss for the US Government. The backlash would be extraordinary.

Now, if they are going to go off the reservation to hunt, and claim that if is "subsistence hunting", then they should be taking every bit of meat. Cutting off the head and only taking the backstrap should immediately invalidate their tribal hunting and fishing rights and make them culpable under state and federal hunting laws.

In this case, he should be hit with poaching. If he had taken all of the animal back to feed his family, I'd have no problem with this. But it just stinks of an Indian trying to hid behind the guise of "I'm an Indian, I'm trying to feed my family".
Posted by 257WBY
Member since Feb 2014
5598 posts
Posted on 2/16/19 at 10:19 am to
Time for this to be over with. Plenty of abuses of Indian hunting rights. Just not much publicity about it. Really bad in Canada.
Posted by beulahland
Little D'arbonne
Member since Jan 2013
3579 posts
Posted on 2/16/19 at 8:15 pm to
I agree.
The time for those reparations has past.
Posted by Triton TR 196
Pineville
Member since Nov 2015
154 posts
Posted on 2/16/19 at 10:15 pm to
you did read where the govt took 30 million acres of his tribes land right??
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
17824 posts
Posted on 2/16/19 at 10:38 pm to
As long as these are legit Indians and are properly processing what they kill I don’t have a huge beef.

I am more bitter about hunting laws in general being cryptic as shite and I despise the increasing feeling that we need a written decree to harvest his highnesses royal game animals.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
38735 posts
Posted on 2/16/19 at 11:18 pm to
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Plenty of abuses of Indian hunting rights. Just not much publicity about it. Really bad in Canada.


Last year I saw a pic on the hard core waterfowler group on face book. These dudes had about 150 green wings piled up in a boat. Upon questioning it revealed they were native North Americans and it was considered substance hunting.

Ridiculous.
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