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Posted on 9/1/20 at 11:30 am to El Segundo Guy
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I will be heading to an elk archery hunt soon and then hopefully get drawn for an elk rifle spot a few weeks later. I have never been elk hunting before but have deer hunted extensively.
I have a nice pack, binos, rangefinder, etc. I have wind direction powder, a Hoochie Mama call, compass, game bags, and a Havalon knife. Any other suggestions?
Depending on where youre coming from and going to its a good idea to give yourself as much time as possible to acclimate to the change in climate. If you already live above 3500 feet probably won't be a problem but if you live at sea level 2000 feet will make a noticeable difference in the amount of breathing you need to do....and it gets worse the higher you go. Fly to Denver, say, from New Orleans and start climbing a mountain immediately and you will see why Denver sports teams have a home field advantage. It is real....most people can acclimate sufficiently in a day or so but I imagine it depends on overall physical conditioning.
Posted on 9/1/20 at 11:41 am to bluedragon
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Prepare for the elevation and remember water puts more oxygen in your blood when Elevation sickness hits.
Is elevation sickness a thing in the continental US? I know altitude makes a huge difference in physical conditioning. Water helps a bunch...and caffeine in moderation can help also....alcohol is a killer at elevation. I have been told that potassium also helps as it it aids in the bodies distribution of hydration...same principle as avoiding cramps....but I don't know if this is true. I do know though that whiskey never tastes as good at sea level as it does at 3500 feet and above but it also is far less intoxicating at sea level and part of this has to do with its inherent trait to block oxygen flow in the body as well as dehydrate, or so I have been told...part of a hangover is lower oxygen levels in the blood and dehydration. It is not uncommon at all to see welders huffing an oxygen hose when hungover (acetylene doesn't have the same effect) None of this may be true but it is for certain a mental thing for most people that alcohol is more intoxicating as oxygen levels drop...if you are wont to have a cup full or two of an evening (it is brilliant for arthiritis and minor aches and pains....and it just tastes good and feels good!!!) do so in moderation compared to what you would do at sea level....
Posted on 9/1/20 at 11:45 am to Gtmodawg
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elevation sickness a thing in the continental US?
Absolutely. I got it last year @ 10k feet, 3 miles from the truck and it was a serious problem.
We are flat land people.
Posted on 9/1/20 at 12:04 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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elevation sickness a thing in the continental US?
Absolutely. I got it last year @ 10k feet, 3 miles from the truck and it was a serious problem.
We are flat land people.
I have never experienced it where it was a problem but I know it is much harder to do any physical activity at 10000 feet than it is at sea level....it is exhausting, for example, setting decoys at 3500 feet compared to doing so at 300.....and the difference is exponentially greater as altitude rises...but I have never been disoriented or anything like that, just gasping for air like I did when I was a pulling guard in high school (therein is a clue as to WHY I notice it so much LOL...O Linemen aren't meant to be trapsing about at altitude....)
I am not a big game hunter so I know almost nothing about rifles but I would think altitude has some impact on the performance of a rifle and load, no? It probably does on a shotgun load also but I never noticed it....now I may have another excuse for missing those geese! It seems logical that the energy would be lowered at altitude in the same way a gas engine labors more due to the lack of oxygen. Is that a thing in rifle loads?
Posted on 9/1/20 at 12:21 pm to Gtmodawg
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rises...but I have never been disoriented or anything like that
I had the whole list of symptoms. I had to basically be led back to the truck like a puppy at a snails pace. Couldn't eat, seeing stuff that wasn't there, crushing headache, coughing my arse off. The whole shebang. Luckily I had two good buddies who have done lots of time at alititude and they got me out.
Posted on 9/1/20 at 12:33 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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I had the whole list of symptoms. I had to basically be led back to the truck like a puppy at a snails pace. Couldn't eat, seeing stuff that wasn't there, crushing headache, coughing my arse off. The whole shebang. Luckily I had two good buddies who have done lots of time at alititude and they got me out.
Man that is scary stuff. How long were you at altitude before starting the really physical stuff? It seems to help to acclimate a day or so, at least for me. I have flown from Atlanta, around 800 feet or so, to New Mexico, around 3500 feet or so, and it is noticeable immediately but the next day it isn't a problem. I have driven from SE NM (3500 feet or so) to Northern NM (8000 feet or so) and trout fished and it wasn't as noticeable as flying the same route but to Denver and immediately going fishing.....the body seems to acclimate pretty quickly, at least in my experience.
Posted on 9/1/20 at 1:14 pm to Gtmodawg
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How long were you at altitude before starting the really physical stuff?
1 day, really all we could afford to waste.
Its definitely not something to play with. I thought it was just an excuse fat people used for being fat. It definitely is not. If I were there alone I would have died.
I'll be packing a scrip for diaoximine (sp?) this year. If it happens again I'm afraid my elk hunting days will be over.
Posted on 9/1/20 at 1:19 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
it's different for everyone.
I've gone 3 times, never taken any medicine or anything. we drive the 20 hours straight and start hiking to our base camp immediately. We go from sea level to 8500 feet and hike 5 miles to an elevation just under 10,000ft.
I've had a headache the next day but it goes away and has never given me a problem.
Staying hydrated is the most important thing, and it's sometimes difficult to know that you havent been drinking enough since you're barely going to notice you're sweating. Really have to monitor your pee, as silly as that sounds.
Leaving this Sunday! Coming back with an elk this year.
I've gone 3 times, never taken any medicine or anything. we drive the 20 hours straight and start hiking to our base camp immediately. We go from sea level to 8500 feet and hike 5 miles to an elevation just under 10,000ft.
I've had a headache the next day but it goes away and has never given me a problem.
Staying hydrated is the most important thing, and it's sometimes difficult to know that you havent been drinking enough since you're barely going to notice you're sweating. Really have to monitor your pee, as silly as that sounds.
Leaving this Sunday! Coming back with an elk this year.
Posted on 9/1/20 at 1:30 pm to El Segundo Guy
One of our posters just touched down in Denver.
Posted on 9/1/20 at 1:44 pm to TeddyPadillac
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different for everyone.
Yep. I had never been above about 1500 feet hiking before. I knew altitiude was physically tough but I did not know it could shut your body down.
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