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jamiegla1
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Electric bear fences for camping
Im about to head up to the Beartooth-Absaroka wilderness in Montana to try and hook up with some Golden trout. Ive backpacked in that area before and never seen a grizz but with some of the recent attacks, my mind is buzzing a bit.

Anyone ever use one of those lightweight electric bear fences by UDAP? Im thinking about pulling the trigger just for peace of mind. I feel ok on the hike with bear spray but i want to sleep well at night, not thinking that every marmot scurrying by my tent is a 600 lb grizzly ready to make me a burrito


mylsuhat
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re: Electric bear fences for camping
Worth it up there IMO

Especially fishing where you might carry some delicious scent


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Especially fishing where you might carry some delicious scent


good point


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re: Electric bear fences for camping
Seems to me it's one of those items that is better to have and not need rather than the alternative.


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re: Electric bear fences for camping
Just follow good bear safety and you’ll likely be okay. If the fencing gives you more peace of mind then I say do it.

The California lady that just got nailed was storing food in her tent and went back to bed after the grizz came in once… it’s hard to fault the bear for being a bear in the face of that kind of nonchalant attitude.



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Just follow good bear safety and you’ll likely be okay. If the fencing gives you more peace of mind then I say do it.

The California lady that just got nailed was storing food in her tent and went back to bed after the grizz came in once… it’s hard to fault the bear for being a bear in the face of that kind of nonchalant attitude.


Yeah, also dont eat, cook or clean near your tent as well. mistake a lot of folks make


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re: Electric bear fences for camping
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this is also a good idea


Manchac Man
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re: Electric bear fences for camping
I don’t know about scaring bears, but I could have some fun with that.


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jamiegla1
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re: Electric bear fences for camping
100% for peace of mind. I try to do all the right things but I plan on cooking some fish and worried that would lure em in


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re: Electric bear fences for camping
I’m going elk hunting in Montana in November. Hopefully the Grizzlies are sleeping, because all I’ll have is a hand gun and bear spray.

Aside from my bolt action.

Sleeping in a 2 man tipi, should be sketchy
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jamiegla1
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this is also a good idea


that looks awesome!


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jamiegla1
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because all I’ll have is a hand gun


I never bothered bringing a gun for two reasons. One, I think the weight of the gun on my leg or chest would be really noticeable after hiking a lot of miles. Two, everything I ever read said that I'd need a minimum 44 mag and some accounts were of people unloading 20 rounds and the bear was still moving. Plus those are really heavy.

Then I found this article. Someone did a really good job compiling accounts of people killing bears with pistols ranging from 9mm to 454 Casull

Handguns vs Bears


mylsuhat
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re: Electric bear fences for camping
I’d say 90% of people that want to carry a gun for bear protection would me more likely to shoot themself before ever hitting the bear


jamiegla1
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That thought seriously crossed my mind if one came into my tent and it was really dark. I’d probably shoot my foot off


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everything I ever read said that I'd need a minimum 44 mag

Sounds like a good excuse to buy a new revolver


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LINK

this is also a good idea


I feel like there's a decent chance of you waking up shitting yourself using that.


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DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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re: Electric bear fences for camping
The 44 mag is wildly inaccurate. Of course it has stopping power, but good luck getting 1 round let alone 5 on target on a grizzly running 35 mph from 40 yds away right at you.

That being said whatever gun you shoot best is a smart carry, but also carry bear spray. Most experts/biologists carry both at all times.

More importantly do not ever eat/cook/or store food at your tent. Always keep your head on a swivel and be bear aware. Since you’re fishing and not hunting you can and should be very loud in the woods. Make noise.

I’ve hunted a good bit in the beartooth wilderness and have seen sows with cubs. Luckily they’ve always stayed clear of us and us them.

From what I gather on the gun v spray debate is this.

You need both. You have much higher odds of hitting with spray, but there are tons of attacks where the spray didn’t stop them and/or took too long. You need a lethal option. If a grizzly is physically on you biting and clawing at your back or leg or arm. You need a gun to unload into it. Spray isn’t gonna stop it at that point. 9mm is widely used because it’s easy to put rounds on target at a rapid rate and it carries a ton of rounds in a mag and also there are some studies that show it typically penetrates deeper than a 45.

You need spray and a gun and both need to be on your sheet or hip not in a pack. It takes less than 2 sec for a charging grizzly to cover 40 yds. Most attacks the victim didn’t see or notice the bear until it was <30yds away. So you have about 1 sec to spray or draw and shoot before she’s on you. Avoid dense thick timber if possible.

It certainly cannot hurt to set an electric wire fence. I’ve not done it yet, but want to in the future.

Go watch the Meateater video they just did on grizz. It’s eye opening.

Also listen to the meat eater podcast on their afognak island grizz attack on the crew. These are all some of the most seasoned expert wilderness hunters and woodsman with tons of hours cataloged in grizzly country and to a man not one was prepared or reacted in what they would call the best way when the attack went down.


jamiegla1
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re: Electric bear fences for camping
I was leaning towards exactly what youre suggesting. I may end up bringing my 9mm instead of the 45. My buddy and I will both carry spray, safety cap removed, and in our hands.

I ended up buying the fence. I may set it up in the yard to practice. Ill post some pics.

I hiked the Beaten Path from Cooke City to East Rosebud Lake a few years ago. One night I heard branches snapping outside my tent. I decided I wasn't going down like that so I put on my headlight and jumped out of the tent. I saw two eyes glowing at me and thought "holy shite its a mountain lion". Then I noticed the other 30 deer moving through my campsite. It was a damn deer and it scared the shite out of me. Hopefully the magic fence helps me sleep better


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lsu13lsu
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You need both. You have much higher odds of hitting with spray, but there are tons of attacks where the spray didn’t stop them and/or took too long. You need a lethal option. If a grizzly is physically on you biting and clawing at your back or leg or arm. You need a gun to unload into it.


You need to play dead and cover your head and neck at that point.


LSUtigah
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re: Electric bear fences for camping
I've hunted Alaska several times and we've used a bear fence only twice, both on Kodiak; and that's because the outfitter/guide had it written into his ADF&G plan for that unit. It wasn't needed in the Brooks Range, Western Alaska or Talkeetna Mtns. Not once did a bear come near camp even though we were hunting bear on Kodiak. Keep your food hung in a tree or sealed in a canister and keep a clean camp. A .45 as backup would help, as we all had .375H&H in the tents with us just in case. Putting your scent (pissing) near your tent helps too.


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