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re: Down sleeping bag recs

Posted on 7/24/18 at 8:46 am to
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 7/24/18 at 8:46 am to
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Tell me about the quilt system vs sleeping bag if you have time



Its really about weight savings and a little about comfort as well. Your sleeping bag loses all ratings on your backside when sleeping because you are compressing everything. The loft is what gives you warmth. A quilt allows you to save weight, feel a little less constricted, and allows for you to have a large range of temps. You can use a very cold rated quilt into higher temps. Most hammock campers use quilts because you still need an underquilt with a hammock and a full sleeping bag is just added weight and lack of room.
Posted by TheNolaClap
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Posted on 7/24/18 at 9:05 am to
What NYC said. Go to Enlightened Equipment's website and watch some of their informative videos. I'm a side sleeper so a mummy bag is terrible. Plus with a quilt without a sewn foot box I can open it to lay flat like a comforter and use it for early season hunts. Straps will attach it to sleeping pad to help keep you centered. From there you can adjust how tightly you want the quilt to wrap around you. Hard to explain without you seeing how it works. EE's website will help a lot.
Posted by Success
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Posted on 7/24/18 at 10:12 am to
Thanks
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 7/24/18 at 10:40 am to
Just remember to only leave your down compressed while you are transporting it and for short periods of time. You will lessen the temp rating otherwise
Posted by Kemosabie
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 7/24/18 at 12:04 pm to
I have the Marmot Helium 15 degree bag and I love it. If the temperature is above 20 degrees, this is all I use in my hammock. Lightweight and compacts down to a great size. Looks like its on sale at backcounty for $320. LINK
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 7/24/18 at 12:14 pm to
Remember, the degree of the bag isn't how well you sleep comfortably. It's how low you can sleep in and still be alive.

I believe mine is -30 or a -20 degree bag, and it is bad arse, down as well. I recommend a -20 or a -30 for Montana's November. Be sure to pack a sleeping roll and thermals too. That makes a WORLD of difference for warmth.

Far as recs idk, just stay with the known name brands. North Face / Marmot etc. You pay more, you get more.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 7/24/18 at 12:18 pm to
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Be sure to pack a sleeping roll and thermals too.


Most of the ratings are actually assuming wearing thermals as well. So dont go expecting to get the same rating wearing just some boxers
Posted by jimbeam
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Posted on 7/24/18 at 12:45 pm to
Quilt is actually very practical. When you compress down it loses the heat insulation, won’t you’re losing that anyway in a bag. Plus quilts are lighter and can be strapped(wrapped) or whatever you want to call it similar to bags if need be.

What NYC said.

I might have gotten a quilt if I had done more research first.
This post was edited on 7/24/18 at 12:46 pm
Posted by LSUintheNW
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Posted on 7/24/18 at 1:16 pm to
Lots of good recs already so I'll just say make sure you have a good pad to lay on or a zero degree bag won't be any good.

Thermarest is what I use.
Posted by parrothead
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Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 7/24/18 at 1:28 pm to
Nemo Disco 15 is my latest bag. Im a slide sleeper and prefer the “spoon” shaped bags from nemo. As others have mention you absolutely need a sleeping pad - the insulation factor will be needed between you and the ground. As far as brands go, I’d recommend Thermorest. There are also a contingency of cold weather campers that put bottles of hot water in their bags at night - haven’t done it myself but seems legit. As mentioned earlier, a 1000 thread count sheet will also help, but I’ll also throw out there that fleece liners in my experience have also helped.
Posted by LSUintheNW
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Posted on 7/24/18 at 1:36 pm to
quote:

fleece liners


Silk is the way to go.
Posted by parrothead
big salty ham
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Posted on 7/24/18 at 1:46 pm to
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Silk is the way to go.


I’ll take silk on a backpacking trip for space reasons, but if I’m car camping in the cold then no doubt I’m going fleece.
Posted by LSUintheNW
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Posted on 7/24/18 at 2:18 pm to
That's a good point although OP hasn't stated either way.

If he's car camping there's
things he can do to spend less and still be warm.

Like a cot and a heater depending on space.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 7/24/18 at 2:45 pm to
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I’ll take silk on a backpacking trip for space reasons, but if I’m car camping in the cold then no doubt I’m going fleece.


are you bringing that to keep the bag clean, or for added warmth?
Posted by Sancho Panza
La Habaña, Cuba
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 7/24/18 at 2:49 pm to
USGI Surplus Mountain Bag; if you can find.
Posted by LSUintheNW
At your mom’s house
Member since Aug 2009
36805 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 2:51 pm to
quote:

are you bringing that to keep the bag clean, or for added warmth?



Added warmth. My silk liner adds 7 degrees and weighs next to nothing.
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 7/24/18 at 4:36 pm to
Sea to Summit

Posted by SouthernImmigrant
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Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 7/24/18 at 5:15 pm to
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You’ll be fine. I’ve used a 30 in June at 9,000 feet in the snow and was “okay”

You’re comment is invalid given that OP is camping in the fall and you went in June
Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
10099 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 6:26 pm to
Snow = wet, if your down gets wet you will be very, very, very cold.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 6:45 pm to
It was very valid because I was in Colorado and it was below freezing at night and snowing.

Thanks bub.
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