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re: Dog shock collar help?!?

Posted on 2/12/12 at 8:15 am to
Posted by Intermingler
Florida's Gulf Coast
Member since May 2011
970 posts
Posted on 2/12/12 at 8:15 am to
Get one of these you won't even have to get out of the chair

Posted by GonePecan
Southeast of disorder
Member since Feb 2011
6086 posts
Posted on 2/12/12 at 9:42 am to
Shock collars are a great training tool. It lets you correct the dogs behavior immediately and lets them know what is expected of them. You can't slap a dog on his head when he's 100 yards away from you. I have only used Tri Tronics and I like them. Very helpful people, too. Put it in your hand and try it only yourself at first so you can know what the dog feels. It's just a mild buzz until you get up into the high numbers, which you should not have to use.

The first time you use it, give your dog a command and if he doesn't respond, touch it with the 1 button. Increase it until he responds. Make sure he knows why you are hitting the collar.

As far as the people who feel sorry for your dog, I have no idea why. It is much better than hitting the dog and it could save the dog's life.
Posted by JasonL79
Houston area
Member since Jan 2010
6425 posts
Posted on 2/12/12 at 9:48 am to
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As far as the people who feel sorry for your dog, I have no idea why. It is much better than hitting the dog and it could save the dog's life.


I agree with this. If trained properly shock collars are extremely helpful. Where I hunt there are a lot of coons, nutrias, and gators. My collar has kept my dog from getting in fights with a lot of nutrias and raccons and it even saved my 1 year old lab from an alligator once. He was on the dock at my cousin's camp and saw a 7ft alligator swimming his way in the canal about 50-60 yards away. I also saw it unfolding and before I could do anything the dog jumped in the canal to go after the gator. I shocked him and got him back on the dock pretty quick. Without that collar my dog would have been killed or at the least really injured.
Posted by Bosethus68
We Call It Dat Boot
Member since May 2011
5389 posts
Posted on 2/12/12 at 10:52 am to
Thank y'all, the I guys that feel bad for my dog are probably just ignorant. I hope they understand I'm not goin to stand there and shock my dog just to laugh. But like I said, I was only here for suggestions not advice
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46380 posts
Posted on 2/12/12 at 11:13 am to
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Thank y'all, the I guys that feel bad for my dog are probably just ignorant. I hope they understand I'm not goin to stand there and shock my dog just to laugh. But like I said, I was only here for suggestions not advice


I am sorry I offered any advise. Comments like that will not earn you any friends here. People were only trying to get more information in order to provide you with better answers. You took that offer and stomped on it. Good luck to your dog, he will need it...
Posted by VernonPLSUfan
Leesville, La.
Member since Sep 2007
17851 posts
Posted on 2/12/12 at 11:18 am to
Don't believe in em. Lazy mans tool.
Posted by Intermingler
Florida's Gulf Coast
Member since May 2011
970 posts
Posted on 2/12/12 at 11:22 am to
Other than trying to keep a dog from biting someone or fighting another dog whey would you have to hit him? I'm no means an expert, but if you can't train a dog with out talking to him hire someone who can.
Posted by Boats n Hose
NOLA
Member since Apr 2011
37248 posts
Posted on 2/12/12 at 11:24 am to
You don't abuse him but a little pop to let him know he's doing something wrong won't hurt. All of our dogs turned out fine. And my dad's a DVM.
You just have to know how a dog thinks.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46380 posts
Posted on 2/12/12 at 11:26 am to
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Don't believe in em. Lazy mans tool.



Can be... but they can also be an invaluable tool. The breed of dog can increase or decrease the need...
Posted by GonePecan
Southeast of disorder
Member since Feb 2011
6086 posts
Posted on 2/12/12 at 11:45 am to
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Other than trying to keep a dog from biting someone or fighting another dog whey would you have to hit him? I'm no means an expert, but if you can't train a dog with out talking to him hire someone who can.

Have you ever tried to stop a lab that is 50 yards out going after a duck? Have you ever tried to stop a bird dog from attacking a skunk? Or like the guy said earlier, stop a dog that is swimming after an aligator?

quote:

hire someone who can

I guarantee you that someone is going to put a collar on him
Posted by VernonPLSUfan
Leesville, La.
Member since Sep 2007
17851 posts
Posted on 2/12/12 at 11:49 am to
Repetition is the key to training a dog. If you don't have time, don't get a dog.
Posted by GonePecan
Southeast of disorder
Member since Feb 2011
6086 posts
Posted on 2/12/12 at 11:53 am to
Tell me how you correct a dog.
This post was edited on 2/12/12 at 11:54 am
Posted by Bosethus68
We Call It Dat Boot
Member since May 2011
5389 posts
Posted on 2/12/12 at 11:56 am to
quote:

wickowick


Let me rephrase

Thanks for the suggestions and Good advice. As for everyone that feels bad for my dog or says I'm lazy, I have trained dogs before with a training collar, but the last one I bought quit working as soon as it was submerged. I am just looking for a better brand
Posted by VernonPLSUfan
Leesville, La.
Member since Sep 2007
17851 posts
Posted on 2/12/12 at 12:02 pm to
How to correct a dog. First, and foremost make sure he knows what the word no means. After that, repetition When he doesn't obey, use no. When he does, use two words, good boy/girl, and a lot of love. Dogs respond to this, it's unbelievable, but it works.
Posted by VernonPLSUfan
Leesville, La.
Member since Sep 2007
17851 posts
Posted on 2/12/12 at 12:04 pm to
I can stop my dog as long as he/she can hear me, simple as that. And they never get out of voice range.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
35255 posts
Posted on 2/12/12 at 12:04 pm to
I think what yall are missing...

Collars are great tools, but in the wrong hands...

They can ruin a dog,

They speed up the learning process but they do not make up for a lack of training knowledge
Posted by Intermingler
Florida's Gulf Coast
Member since May 2011
970 posts
Posted on 2/12/12 at 12:34 pm to
Vernon P has it correct...if you can't stop a dog in the field, it doesn't belong there yet.
Posted by GonePecan
Southeast of disorder
Member since Feb 2011
6086 posts
Posted on 2/12/12 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

First, and foremost make sure he knows what the word no means.

And how do you do this?
Posted by GonePecan
Southeast of disorder
Member since Feb 2011
6086 posts
Posted on 2/12/12 at 1:13 pm to
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Vernon P has it correct...if you can't stop a dog in the field, it doesn't belong there yet.

No, that is not a correct statement because you never know what may happen. Hunting conditions are different than training conditions.
Posted by JasonL79
Houston area
Member since Jan 2010
6425 posts
Posted on 2/12/12 at 1:16 pm to
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How to correct a dog. First, and foremost make sure he knows what the word no means. After that, repetition When he doesn't obey, use no. When he does, use two words, good boy/girl, and a lot of love. Dogs respond to this, it's unbelievable, but it works.


This might work with the more timid types of dogs but it surely won't work with more agressive head-strong type dogs with lots of drive.

I've had several male labs over the years and while this might work for the house it surely doesn't hold true in the field in all situations. And most of my labs were highly-trained dogs. The last three were force fetched, collar conditioned, ran 100 yards plus blinds, knew hand signals, fetched over 20+ birds a hunt tons of times, etc and also competed and passed hunt tests.
This post was edited on 2/12/12 at 1:18 pm
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