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Does anyone have any updates on how close Auburn is to a release on their hog only poison
Posted on 10/4/24 at 9:47 pm
Posted on 10/4/24 at 9:47 pm
I remember reading about it a year or so ago. I think Mississippi state and LSU may be working on something too.
Bama hog bait
Bama hog bait
This post was edited on 10/4/24 at 9:50 pm
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Posted on 10/4/24 at 11:29 pm to TutHillTiger
Australia originally developed a sodium nitrite poison for feral hogs.LSU developed a version based on Australia’s success with it.
It’s very safe with no residual effect,scavengers that eat the dead hog won’t be harmed.If a hog eats not enough to kill him and a hunter shoots it,it will be safe to eat.
Problem is sodium nitrite is also harmful to other animals such as deer,raccoons and bears.
That’s the problem,developing a delivery system that other animals can’t access.
Personally,I’m pretty pessimistic that a delivery system will be developed that a bear can’t access and a hog can.
If I was in charge,I’d be fine with getting rid of the bears if that’s what it took to get rid of the hogs.
I don’t see why we need bears in Louisiana,they’re a nuisance and lot’s of people where bears have proliferated hate them.
It’s very safe with no residual effect,scavengers that eat the dead hog won’t be harmed.If a hog eats not enough to kill him and a hunter shoots it,it will be safe to eat.
Problem is sodium nitrite is also harmful to other animals such as deer,raccoons and bears.
That’s the problem,developing a delivery system that other animals can’t access.
Personally,I’m pretty pessimistic that a delivery system will be developed that a bear can’t access and a hog can.
If I was in charge,I’d be fine with getting rid of the bears if that’s what it took to get rid of the hogs.
I don’t see why we need bears in Louisiana,they’re a nuisance and lot’s of people where bears have proliferated hate them.
Posted on 10/5/24 at 12:20 am to LSUA 75
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If I was in charge,I’d be fine with getting rid of the bears if that’s what it took to get rid of the hogs.
I don’t see why we need bears in Louisiana,they’re a nuisance and lot’s of people where bears have proliferated hate them.
Might as well get rid of the whitetail deer as a nuisance animal. They destroy farm crops, gardens, yard plants, carry ticks, diseases, etc. Oh wait the LDWF would lose monies deregulating deer and letting people hunt them at night like hogs.
Posted on 10/5/24 at 5:53 am to LSUA 75
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problem,developing a delivery system that other animals can’t access.
Wonder how far we are off from a computer aided AI device that can identify a hog vs other animal and disperse poison as warranted. I bet the ability for ai to decipher between animals already exists in the lab. Getting it into the woods at a non-insane price is a different matter.
I'm amazed at how accurate my phone is at identifying plants just from me taking a photo.
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don’t see why we need bears in Louisiana,they’re a nuisance
You're not wrong.
Posted on 10/5/24 at 8:32 am to Turnblad85
If the delivery system is so sophisticated why not just have a trap around it?
Posted on 10/5/24 at 9:38 am to The Levee
Guess it just depends on what your goal is. Catch and deal with live hogs or eliminate them from your area hands-free. I will guess that within a decade that the technology I mentioned will be affordable and available. Ima say $1000 for "smart" feeder.
Thats my guess.
eta, I haven't heard if there is any risks to the animals that might eat a dying or dead hog. If thats the case then I don't see how poison can work smart feeder or not.
Thats my guess.
eta, I haven't heard if there is any risks to the animals that might eat a dying or dead hog. If thats the case then I don't see how poison can work smart feeder or not.
This post was edited on 10/5/24 at 9:43 am
Posted on 10/5/24 at 12:31 pm to TutHillTiger
I would think you'd need a high fence corral of some sort with a short opening for hogs. You could dispense as much corn and poison as you want then.
Posted on 10/5/24 at 12:48 pm to boudinman
“Might as well get rid of the whitetail deer as a nuisance animal”
Deer don’t even come close to the damage to crops etc.that bears and wild hogs do.I include wild hogs because the only realistic way to control wild hogs is by trapping.Bears eleminate any possibility of trapping hogs.
A guy I know is in a hunting club that is overrun with wild hogs.They have traps but they also have a resident bear that eats the bait so they never catch any hogs.
They’re afraid to shoot the bear because they are convinced all the bears have chips.I don’t know how they think the state chips all the bears but whatever,they believe that.
They could get night vision scopes and spend all their nights out there shooting hogs and harassing them off their lease but they are working people and can’t work days and spend nights out there.
Deer don’t even come close to the damage to crops etc.that bears and wild hogs do.I include wild hogs because the only realistic way to control wild hogs is by trapping.Bears eleminate any possibility of trapping hogs.
A guy I know is in a hunting club that is overrun with wild hogs.They have traps but they also have a resident bear that eats the bait so they never catch any hogs.
They’re afraid to shoot the bear because they are convinced all the bears have chips.I don’t know how they think the state chips all the bears but whatever,they believe that.
They could get night vision scopes and spend all their nights out there shooting hogs and harassing them off their lease but they are working people and can’t work days and spend nights out there.
Posted on 10/5/24 at 12:52 pm to LSUA 75
What a tragedy.
Posted on 10/5/24 at 1:15 pm to Turnblad85
“Wonder how far we are off from a computer aided device AI device that can identify a hog”
I read about a computerized delivery system as you describe.I think a guy from Louisiana developed it.It had cameras and sound recognition software that could differentiate hogs from other animals.
Only problem, it was going to cost $2,000 and if I remember correctly one would need one every 100 acres.
LSU is testing a hopper with a cell camera that sends a photo to a cellphone,the hopper would be unlocked by sending a signal from the phone.
I have a hog trap that works like that.It’s a pain in the arse as I would get a lot of false signals from coons and possums.I did catch a good many,my best was 22.Luckily the hogs have been gone from my property for 4-5 years now.
I think the best trap now is one called PIG BRIG.You can see videos on it on YouTube.Guy I know told me his grandfather has one and has had good luck with it.
Again,if one has bears it wouldn’t work.
I read about a computerized delivery system as you describe.I think a guy from Louisiana developed it.It had cameras and sound recognition software that could differentiate hogs from other animals.
Only problem, it was going to cost $2,000 and if I remember correctly one would need one every 100 acres.
LSU is testing a hopper with a cell camera that sends a photo to a cellphone,the hopper would be unlocked by sending a signal from the phone.
I have a hog trap that works like that.It’s a pain in the arse as I would get a lot of false signals from coons and possums.I did catch a good many,my best was 22.Luckily the hogs have been gone from my property for 4-5 years now.
I think the best trap now is one called PIG BRIG.You can see videos on it on YouTube.Guy I know told me his grandfather has one and has had good luck with it.
Again,if one has bears it wouldn’t work.
Posted on 10/5/24 at 1:45 pm to Turnblad85
“I haven’t heard if there is any risk to the animals that might eat a dying or dead hog”
There is no risk.Sodium nitrite is what is used as meat preservative in sausage,hot dogs,other preserved meats.
Hogs lack the enzyme to metabolize it,it interferes with the oxygen carrying capacity of red blood cells,they go to sleep and don’t wake up.Same as with carbon monoxide poisoning.
SN degrades rapidly into non-toxic compounds when exposed to air and moisture,it doesn’t bio accumulate in tissues so there is no risk of secondary poisoning.
Other animals are deficient in the enzyme needed to metabolize SN so they can be harmed if they get access to the bait and eat enough of it.Actually,humans can be harmed if they would ingest enough of it which is unlikely.
Therefore the need for a hog specific delivery system.
There is no risk.Sodium nitrite is what is used as meat preservative in sausage,hot dogs,other preserved meats.
Hogs lack the enzyme to metabolize it,it interferes with the oxygen carrying capacity of red blood cells,they go to sleep and don’t wake up.Same as with carbon monoxide poisoning.
SN degrades rapidly into non-toxic compounds when exposed to air and moisture,it doesn’t bio accumulate in tissues so there is no risk of secondary poisoning.
Other animals are deficient in the enzyme needed to metabolize SN so they can be harmed if they get access to the bait and eat enough of it.Actually,humans can be harmed if they would ingest enough of it which is unlikely.
Therefore the need for a hog specific delivery system.
Posted on 10/6/24 at 8:23 am to LSUA 75
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Problem is sodium nitrite is also harmful to other animals such as deer,raccoons and bears.
I dont think I would miss the raccoons at all.
They are as big a problem as the feral hogs. No one traps raccoons anymore and their population is out of control.
Posted on 10/6/24 at 10:14 am to boudinman
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Might as well get rid of the whitetail deer as a nuisance animal. They destroy farm crops, gardens, yard plants, carry ticks, diseases, etc. Oh wait the LDWF would lose monies deregulating deer and letting people hunt them at night like hogs.
They have been killing deer at night for years. Farmers can get permits to shoot deer in their crops, but they must leave them there. I know several that brag about what they kill at night. I don't like it but it is their "lively hood".
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