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Crate training a puppy

Posted on 2/10/20 at 8:50 am
Posted by KajunKouyon
White Castle, LA
Member since Jun 2012
2377 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 8:50 am
How long do y’all leave them in the crate all day? Am I a POS for leaving a 6 week old crated for 10 hours?
Posted by LSUJML
BR
Member since May 2008
45072 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 8:53 am to
You are going to have a mess to clean up
Posted by KajunKouyon
White Castle, LA
Member since Jun 2012
2377 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 8:57 am to
Yea I am prepared for that. Just curious if it’s normal for people to crate puppies up for that long. With the understanding that they are obviously not going to be able to hold it for that long
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67478 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:02 am to
10 hours does seem like a long time to me. When you let him out does he ever go back to the crate to lay down? Or is he "frick that place"
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
48926 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:02 am to
That is a very long time for a young pup



We recently got a chocolate lab puppy. Instead of crate training, we gated off the kitchen and let him live in there. Early on, he did make a mess but that tailed off very quick. I liked it for the fact that he was able to move around and entertain himself
Posted by KajunKouyon
White Castle, LA
Member since Jun 2012
2377 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:04 am to
So we just got him yesterday. Kind of spur of the moment to go get him. Today is his first day lol. Probably hates us more than the crate right about now
Posted by KajunKouyon
White Castle, LA
Member since Jun 2012
2377 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:05 am to
May have to go this route instead. Get one of those 2’ diameter play pens or something
Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
38498 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:07 am to
quote:


How long do y’all leave them in the crate all day? Am I a POS for leaving a 6 week old crated for 10 hours?


You're going to have a mess on your hands.

Generally speaking, a puppy can hold its bladder about 1 x its age, i.e. 4 months old = 4 hours. This depends upon what type of activity he/she had prior to being crated and if you leave food and/or water down inside crate.

Given your situation, I recommend that you wake up incredibly early, exercise him/her, feed / water and then take out at least 2 times prior to leaving for the day. If you have an elderly neighbor or someone you trust inside your house, you may want to consider asking them to help.

Also, when crating, do not give you puppy the entire space inside the crate. Use the divider than came with it. Sounds cruel, but it's not. Otherwise, he/she will go in the back of the crate and sleep in the front --- thus not teaching them potty training.
Posted by KajunKouyon
White Castle, LA
Member since Jun 2012
2377 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:11 am to
This is what I did this morning. I took him straight out to use the bathroom, fed him and gave him water, took him out again to play with my other dog and use the bathroom again.

Wife woke up 30 minutes after me for work and did the same thing. She left at 5 am and I will not be home until 4pm

We left him a little food and water just incase
This post was edited on 2/10/20 at 9:12 am
Posted by KajunKouyon
White Castle, LA
Member since Jun 2012
2377 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:14 am to
My first boxer would just be crated during the day and he stayed with me in my bed all night. This one unfortunately will spend all day and during the night in that kennel. I feel like a POS but I don’t know if I am or not
Posted by LSUJML
BR
Member since May 2008
45072 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:14 am to
It’s a puppy, it will be messy until it gets older
Any way one of y’all can run home at lunch?
My parents are retired & I paid my mom to walk my dog during the day

Good luck
Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
38498 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:16 am to
quote:

We left him a little food and water just incase


If I were you, I would eliminate this, especially if he is an inside dog (and judging by your crate question, he is).

A puppy will be fine, inside, providing you give him plenty of exercise (physical and mental), affection, food and water (when appropriate). Since he's not doing anything during the day, food and water aren't necessary. Also, by keeping food and water out (especially food), you're indirectly teaching him he can eat whenever he wants versus when you put the food down and take it away after 10 minutes, he will know that he must eat or he won't until you put it down again.

By doing this, you'll help control his bowels (and bladder) as well.
Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
39395 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:17 am to
Prepare for a bigger mess since you left food and water. If you're going to leave a pup in there for that long, I would suggest not doing that, and supervising food and drink until the puppy can get a little bladder control.

Posted by KajunKouyon
White Castle, LA
Member since Jun 2012
2377 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:17 am to
Unfortunately no, we both work an hour away
Posted by KajunKouyon
White Castle, LA
Member since Jun 2012
2377 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:18 am to
So he will be an inside dog until he is big enough to hang with my 5 year old boxer outside. I have a large covered patio that he lives in. I was skeptical of leaving the puppy outside while it is a little cold outside still
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:19 am to
quote:

Yea I am prepared for that. Just curious if it’s normal for people to crate puppies up for that long


Way way to long at that age. They need to piss and crap about ever 2 hours.
Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
38498 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:24 am to
quote:

I was skeptical of leaving the puppy outside while it is a little cold outside still



Don't disagree with your reasoning. Makes sense to me.

Follow those tips that I left for you in a previous reply and they will help. Won't eliminate messes, but better than what you would have come home to.
Posted by nolaks
Member since Dec 2013
1128 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:32 am to
You will be ok, if possible, leave him two areas. IE a bed or pad or whatever you are using and the opposite side leave enough space for an accident. If /when you can get home mid day do it. Always/Always/Always the first thing you do is pick the pup up and take him outside to the grass. This goes for morning and afternoon. The FIRST thing, this will condition him. A pup needs water, he will make a mess, but I don't think you should deprive him of water all day. As to food, feed him twice a day. Same time every day. You can review how much to feed on any number of calculators online. don't do treats or special food items or anything at first, get him conditioned to his food. conditioning to feed helps immensely with other items. ie you can get him to come, simply by calling or whistling at feeding time. You can condition him to sit by holding the food above his head every time before you feed (do no feed until he sits). As you progress, you can layer on additional commands that fit into the normal routine. ie as soon as you open the crate, head for the door and call him to follow you. when you see him use the bathroom, use a command. I've always used hurry up, but that's just what my father used. when you've got him regularly following you out, put a lead on him and start getting him to heal, always at your left side. I used to have a complex post about this but I can't remember what forum its on.
Posted by jralspanky
Fargo - Home of NDSU Bison
Member since Apr 2009
1479 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:34 am to
Get the smallest crate pup will fit in and let it out every 2-3 hours. Increase crate size and time as up grows
This post was edited on 2/10/20 at 9:35 am
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67478 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:35 am to
quote:

Probably hates us more than the crate right about now

If he hates going back to crate or won't go back voluntarily then he's in there too much. Put a small bowl of water in there and see if he'll drink out of it when he's out.
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