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re: Cottonmouth or Copperhead?
Posted on 11/9/18 at 2:50 am to rattlebucket
Posted on 11/9/18 at 2:50 am to rattlebucket
Copperhead. I’ve seen enough of them.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 7:03 am to LSUCouyon
It’s nkt a copperhead. The pattern is wrong. Educate yourself, you’re never too old lo learn something
Posted on 11/9/18 at 7:10 am to LSUCouyon
quote:Did you read the thread?
Copperhead. I’ve seen enough of them.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 7:21 am to AlxTgr
Still think it’s a copperhead. I’ve never seen a cottonmouth with that color.
I have a picture of a juvenile snake That I wish I could post on here.
Never seen one quite like that one. Really colorful, thinking copperhead but who knows anymore. Actually very pretty with green tail. Very aggressive.
I have a picture of a juvenile snake That I wish I could post on here.
Never seen one quite like that one. Really colorful, thinking copperhead but who knows anymore. Actually very pretty with green tail. Very aggressive.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 7:28 am to LSUCouyon
My vote is for a hybrid cottonhead. Yes... that actually exists. The two species interbreed when they cannot find a mate of the same species.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 8:06 am to Dorothy
OP's pics have the side band on the face like a cottonmouth and the jagged pattern is closer to that of a cottonmouth.
From Louisianaherps.com:
From Living Alonside Wildlife:
Juvenile cottonmouth
From Louisianaherps.com:
quote:
Juvenile Cottonmouths are often confused for juvenile Copperheads due to their vibrant pattern that usually darkens quickly as it matures. Notice below, however, that the pattern of the juvenile Cottonmouth is much more jagged than that of the juvenile Copperhead. There is also more spotting and such within the bands of the juvenile Cottonmouth than the juvenile Copperhead. Lastly, the thick black bar that runs through the eye and is bordered below by a thin white line is absent in the juvenile Copperhead.
From Living Alonside Wildlife:
quote:
Cottonmouth patterns are superficially similar to that of Copperheads, but the hourglass bands of a Cottonmouth are not as precise as those of Copperheads: they are messy, the lines are blurred, and sometimes there are other shapes thrown in there as well.
Baby Cottonmouths are as strikingly and vividly patterned as Copperheads, they do not become dark and lose their pattern until later in life. Just because the patterns on a baby Agkistrodon are clear does not mean it is a Copperhead. This is where it's important to see if the hourglasses are messy or not. Again, Copperhead bands are relatively crisp, Cottonmouth bands are not.
Cottonmouths have a dark band on their face that runs through their eye.
Copperheads do not
Juvenile cottonmouth
Posted on 11/9/18 at 8:56 am to Quatre Pot
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Juvenile cottonmouth.
/thread
Posted on 11/9/18 at 9:08 am to porkrind
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My vote is for a hybrid cottonhead. Yes... that actually exists. The two species interbreed when they cannot find a mate of the same species.
But, why would you think it's a super rare hybrid when it looks exactly like a normal cottonmouth?
Posted on 11/9/18 at 9:18 am to Teague
I think people, in general, want to see things that are special or rare. Hell, part of me wanted it to be a copperhead just so I could tell people that I saw one. But in reality, the most reasonable answer is probably the correct answer.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 9:19 am to Teague
Not that I am defending these people, but it can be surprising how light some cottonmouths are. In my area, they are pretty dark, even when young.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 9:25 am to AlxTgr
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Not that I am defending these people, but it can be surprising how light some cottonmouths are. In my area, they are pretty dark, even when young.
Yeah, I think a lot of people see dark cottonmouths and think that's what they always look like. They can vary by age, locality, and just by individual. Young ones, especially, do look pretty similar to copperheads in most cases. They're in the same genus and pretty closely related, which is why they CAN (but rarely do) hybridize.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 10:14 am to friday1728
Looks like a Copperhead snake. Cottonmouths have a different pattern over their body. The inside of the mouth will tell you which it is.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 10:15 am to friday1728
WTF did you do, have a photo shoot with it before decapitating it? Ballsy.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 10:23 am to Cump11b
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Looks like a Copperhead snake.
I think the OB is trying to see how far it can push me before I stab somebody.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 10:37 am to Teague
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I think the OB is trying to see how far it can push me before I stab somebody.
Do it, please! I nominate boat motor bandit as your first victim
Posted on 11/9/18 at 10:40 am to Teague
Is there a Sonic half way between BR and you?
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:05 am to Cump11b
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WTF did you do, have a photo shoot with it before decapitating it? Ballsy.
Sure did. I wasn't that close, though. Gotta love camera quality on these new phones. I actually almost stepped on the thing, right over the top of it barefooted. I saw it out of the corner of my eye and thought it was a stick. But, there shouldn't have been any sticks in that area of the yard.
The snake never moved the whole time.
The inside of the mouth was bright white. It opened up when the shovel got it.
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