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re: Charter trip
Posted on 4/22/14 at 2:09 pm to sig2608
Posted on 4/22/14 at 2:09 pm to sig2608
You're wasting everyone's time with the lack of info you're giving. During this time of year fishing can be tough, and the conditions this year thus far have been pretty terrible. It's no surprise the guy tried moving around a bunch, the water has been pretty nasty there with all of the damn wind.
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 2:25 pm to sig2608
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I don't have a dog in this hunt (not in the industry) so take my advice for what it's worth. This place does not take too kindly to criticism of charter captains.
If you want to post some more details do so but keep in mind a lot of people on this site are either captains themselves or friends with charter captains so they will defend the charter industry.
I don't have a dog in this hunt (not in the industry) so take my advice for what it's worth. This place does not take too kindly to criticism of charter captains.
If you want to post some more details do so but keep in mind a lot of people on this site are either captains themselves or friends with charter captains so they will defend the charter industry.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 2:28 pm to TigerTreyjpg
Dane is a cool Capt for sure and a good entertainer. Ever notice how he uses a towel to remove all of his fish? I understand we all use towels on the boats but he is hilarious about it. He catches a lot of grief down in shell beach due to his fish slim issue! Went on a last minute scouting trip with him and two other guides and he was killing us with it. Give him hell about it next time!
Sounds like the Capt did his job but wasn't to good at the customer service side which is not uncommon for charter capt's.
Sounds like the Capt did his job but wasn't to good at the customer service side which is not uncommon for charter capt's.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 2:32 pm to JayWall
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This place does not take too kindly to criticism of charter captains.
I don't think that's the case at all. If someone has a legitimate beef I think folks would support the customer. Just going from past experience on similar posts came from folks with unrealistic expectations (treble hook).
Posted on 4/22/14 at 2:32 pm to JayWall
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This place does not take too kindly to un-justifiable criticism of anyone.
Fixed it for you.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 2:34 pm to JayWall
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This place does not take too kindly to criticism of charter captains.
Calling out a bad captain helps the good ones, its just rare that once the story comes out it was actually the captain.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 2:41 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
Aside from the pricing issue (which you would need to talk to the "friend" about, since he agreed to a price and it was paid), it sounds like the fish just werent biting.
To flip the scenario for a different perspective:
If he would have carried the same attitude, yet you all caught a shitload of fish at the different spots he took you to, would you still be mad?
As far as the attitude of the captain, some people like to be catered and some dont, I am the latter. I would have been fine with him handing me a rod, showing me where the hooks/bait are at, and "have at it".
I had a deckhand up my arse a few years ago on an offshore trip and it drove me nuts. On the other hand, he was awesome at his job, I just dont want him de-hooking all of my fish, threading bait onto my hook, etc.
To flip the scenario for a different perspective:
If he would have carried the same attitude, yet you all caught a shitload of fish at the different spots he took you to, would you still be mad?
As far as the attitude of the captain, some people like to be catered and some dont, I am the latter. I would have been fine with him handing me a rod, showing me where the hooks/bait are at, and "have at it".
I had a deckhand up my arse a few years ago on an offshore trip and it drove me nuts. On the other hand, he was awesome at his job, I just dont want him de-hooking all of my fish, threading bait onto my hook, etc.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 2:45 pm to TJG210
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If someone has a legitimate beef I think folks would support the customer.
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folks with unrealistic expectations
Embedded within these statements is the subjective. What is legitimate? What is unreasonable?
If you are close to the industry (i.e. friend of a captain) your opinion of the criticism will be biased. It's human nature. I'm just preparing the OP for reality.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 2:45 pm to RedfishRunner
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Dane is a cool Capt for sure and a good entertainer. Ever notice how he uses a towel to remove all of his fish? I understand we all use towels on the boats but he is hilarious about it. He catches a lot of grief down in shell beach due to his fish slim issue! Went on a last minute scouting trip with him and two other guides and he was killing us with it. Give him hell about it next time
I really like him too, and i freaking LOVE that big, plain arse boat of his. We happened up on him when we couldn't get some dude close to him down there name Kerry Altimont (some pretty famous guide down there) or something like that? Anyway, he sent us to Dane, and been fishing with him ever since. My favorite thing about Dane is that when he sets the hook on a trout, literally BOTH feet come off the ground lol.
As for defending the guide business, I'm probably guilty of doing that/giving them the benefit of the doubt. But, it IS called hunting and fishing, and not catching and killing. Those guys work their asses off. Tons of them wind up w/pain pill problems/back trouble/surgery after surgery.....
As much as I like to fish, I couldn't do it like Dudley or Mary/Jeff Poe or Rue and them guys, that 250 days a year stuff.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 2:51 pm to RedfishRunner
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Sounds like the Capt did his job but wasn't to good at the customer service side which is not uncommon for charter capt's.
I have several friends who spent some time running charters, as well as some a cousin who spent a few summers as a deck hand for free just to learn with a pretty well known charter captain. I have almost always ended up taking charters with one of them on the trip, so it never felt like a charter. Most people on the boat knew the captain. We got the anchor, we picked up the fish, etc.. This was before some of us had boats so we were basically just paying to use the boat and the guides knowledge of where the best fishing was at the time. I wouldn't know what it's like to actually have someone provide me with "customer service". I've only had one trip where the guide was kind of to himself. We caught fish, so it wasn't a big deal to me.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 3:00 pm to KG6
Fellas I'm at work ..When I get off I'll give more details ...
Posted on 4/22/14 at 4:09 pm to TigerTreyjpg
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Ever notice how he uses a towel to remove all of his fish?
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My favorite thing about Dane is that when he sets the hook on a trout, literally BOTH feet come off the ground lol.
Are you serious?
Who the frick would endorse either of these practices?
Both are entirely unnecessary and neither are favorable for the survival of a fish that is to be released.
This has got to be a joke. There can't really be a guide/captain that does this?
If so, this is worse than that plant operator wanna-be professional fisherman whose fiance caught the 11 pound bass and then got butt hurt when someone criticized his keeping the fish to be mounted instead of entering it in the lunker program.
BTW, I'm curious as to why that thread was deleted?
Posted on 4/22/14 at 4:11 pm to WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot
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I'm curious as to why that thread was deleted?
Interesting, did not realize that...
Posted on 4/22/14 at 4:15 pm to Polar Pop
Yeah, I tried to open the thread to see how the day crew felt about it but got the old "STOP! You do not have the authority to view this page." warning.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 6:41 pm to WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot
I went fishing with a guide once offshore in Alabama. The first place we stopped we were killing it. Constant hookups of NICE fish then the guide said reel in the lines we are moving. I asked "Why are we moving."
He gave some garbage answer about the wind changed. The wind was slight and had not changed. We spent the rest of the day "looking" for fish and not catching any. I asked to go back to the first spot and was given all sorts of excuses.
I guess he wanted to save his honey hole for the next day.
He gave some garbage answer about the wind changed. The wind was slight and had not changed. We spent the rest of the day "looking" for fish and not catching any. I asked to go back to the first spot and was given all sorts of excuses.
I guess he wanted to save his honey hole for the next day.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 8:02 pm to bird35
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I guess he wanted to save his honey hole for the next day.
A reef made of toilets only holds so many fish.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 8:09 pm to Capt ST
I use the term honey hole often, but I am primarily fish for CRAPPIE.
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