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re: Bob’s Bayou Black Marina will likely close on March 1st, 2019

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Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 3/14/18 at 2:46 pm to
I want the law to stay like it is. I dont want assholes blowing their surface drives into my land when the water gets a few inches high.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108595 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 2:47 pm to
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Because other states(Not Texas-we have covered that) di it, makes it better?

Texas is better than us at everything related to govt, so yes it makes it better
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See, I would never have entered these discussions in the first place, because I really just don't care.
The fact that you dominate these threads says otherwise
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It's just that your side makes such terrible illogical arguments that I can't pass them up.You see the same shite on the rant whenever a coach gets in trouble. Terrible terrible arguments.
This post was edited on 3/14/18 at 2:51 pm
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
49840 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 2:48 pm to
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This was aimed more at the Oil companies that are using the public waterways to access there private property.

You mean the oil companies that fronted the money for equipment and time as well as paid for the access to dig these canals? What exactly is a "public canal" when a canal itself is a man made thing?
This post was edited on 3/14/18 at 2:49 pm
Posted by Triton TR 196
Pineville
Member since Nov 2015
159 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 2:48 pm to
ALX
I'm pretty sure we know each other and I respect your opinion on this, but I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108595 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 2:49 pm to
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You mean the oil companies that fronted the money for equipment and time as well as paid for the access to dig these canals? What exactly is a "public canal" when a canal Former Jets linebacker Demario Davis expected to sign with the New Orleans Saints per source. Deal is 3 years, $24 million, $18 million in guaranteed is a man made thing?
Well when you put it like that I have know clue what a canal is
Posted by Black
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Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 3/14/18 at 2:50 pm to
god dammit....you edited too quick
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108595 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 2:50 pm to
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I'm pretty sure we know each other and I respect your opinion on this
He doesnt respect you
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
49840 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 2:51 pm to
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Well when you put it like that I have know clue what a canal is




I accidentally hit [ctrl+v]
Posted by Triton TR 196
Pineville
Member since Nov 2015
159 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 2:52 pm to
Please show me where I said "public canal", I said public waterway. How many of these oil companies are launching a vessel on their own property. If they had that capability why would they have built the canal to the public waterway for access?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108595 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 2:53 pm to
It comes down to this:


1. You like our law. Water is no different than land

2. You hate our law. Water is different than land



Yet, it is just too much fun arguing about it to make it that simple
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108595 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 2:54 pm to
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I dont want assholes blowing their surface drives into my land when the water gets a few inches high.

Ban surface drives.

I support this law
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
49840 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 2:55 pm to
I'll say this. I completely understand the issue from a fisherman's POV.

You can't just go and take private lands and force them to be public access. People have a lot of time and money invested in their lands.

And saying "you aren't losing any land because own the water bottom" is ridiculous. It's akin to saying that because BR flooded a few years ago you had a legal right to go and ride wherever you want


ETA: I wish from the beginning that all canals were open to all. But it's the getting into the marsh and into the ponds that becomes an issue
This post was edited on 3/14/18 at 3:01 pm
Posted by Black
My own little world
Member since Jul 2009
22244 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 3:00 pm to
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I completely understand the issue from a fisherman's POV.



Which is mine. I'm just worried i'll be losing more and more of the canals that I grew up fishing.

I hate when Johnny Redneck decides to take his surface drive and run over floats and vegetation a la what they do on Lake Beouf every damn year. And I don't agree with the bass fishermen that blow through a pond with the big engine. I don't want anything to do with the land, and i'm not going to hunt your ducks. Hell, I don't think I've ever fished a pond in my bass boat for the shear fact that it's about 2" of water and I worry about getting stuck
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Member since Jan 2011
71079 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 3:01 pm to
Ban boats entirely maybe.

I find all of this hillarious. I bet the same people here arguing about this have their deer lease locked down like a fort.

Just because it has water on it does not make it public. The law is fine like it is and yall can fish in what is available.
Posted by AlxTgr
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Member since Oct 2003
86493 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 3:01 pm to
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Texas is better than us at everything related to govt, so yes it makes it better
And yet there can be private navigable waters.

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The fact that you dominate these threads says otherwise
Thank you. I knew I was dominate, but didn't know you realized it.

Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108595 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 3:03 pm to
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And yet there can be private navigable waters.

hmmm


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Law 8. That No One has a Right to Build a Mill or Other Edifice on a River, by Which the Navigation of Vessels may be Obstructed. No man has a right to dig a new canal, construct a new mill, house, tower, cabin, or any other building whatever, in rivers which are navigated by vessels, nor upon their banks, by which the common use of them may be obstructed. And if he does, whether the canal or edifice be newly or anciently made, if it interfere with such common use, it ought to be destroyed. For it is not just that the common good of all men generally should be sacrificed to the interest of some persons only.







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If a person legally dams a stream to create a lake, the stream bed is owned by the state; the rest of the lake bed is owned by the landowner. The public has the right to navigate the waters and take fish (both of which belong to the state) but not to use the bed and banks of the lake. For example,Diversion
Lake Club v. Heath, 86 S.W.2d 441 (Tex. 1935)



Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86493 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 3:03 pm to
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I'm pretty sure we know each other and I respect your opinion on this
No idea and thank you.

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but I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.
The pro-trespassing side will not do this, so this is what we end up with. Every...single...time.
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
49840 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 3:05 pm to
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Law 8. That No One has a Right to Build a Mill or Other Edifice on a River, by Which the Navigation of Vessels may be Obstructed. No man has a right to dig a new canal, construct a new mill, house, tower, cabin, or any other building whatever, in rivers which are navigated by vessels, nor upon their banks, by which the common use of them may be obstructed. And if he does, whether the canal or edifice be newly or anciently made, if it interfere with such common use, it ought to be destroyed. For it is not just that the common good of all men generally should be sacrificed to the interest of some persons only.


This is good and all... if it were around when the canals were being dug
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108595 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 3:05 pm to
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The pro-trespassing side will not do this, so this is what we end up with. Every...single...time.

Huh? I very much agree to disagree with you. I very much enjoy disagreeing with you



I will continue to fight to change the law as well. A law simply being a law, doesnt make it a good one.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86493 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 3:05 pm to
I meant Florida-never mind.
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