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re: Best Way to Mark Property LInes
Posted on 9/23/24 at 2:25 pm to Tigerinthewoods
Posted on 9/23/24 at 2:25 pm to Tigerinthewoods
quote:They have no clue how much tension is needed to hang a string/wire over 600'. Even if he could realistically pull it tight enough to not have interference, he'd need a hell of a support column on each end to take that tension tied off. Then like you said. Any wind will sway that a significant amount.
Good luck pulling that line tight enough at over 600' to get it off of short grass.
Not to mention, if theres any wind that line willl sway all over the place.
Level or transit is probably the most accurate thing you could get your hands and run yourself. But you'll need another hand to drive the line stakes. And you take a big risk of doing accurately.
The best (and honestly likely cheapest) option is a survey crew. IF and only if your corners are marked and easily identifiable as per record, as you say, a 2 man survey crew with a GPS could stake this in a couple hours.
I'd call the surveyor who marked the corners. If they are well marked, I'd assume a survey was done fairly recently and likely easily tracked down.
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Posted on 9/23/24 at 2:37 pm to Antib551
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And you take a big risk of doing accurately.
I've done it many times using an 8' level as my sighting post and been less than an inch off either way. It's pretty accurate.
But you are absolutely correct, if I were going to invest in fencing those lines I would certainly get a survey crew and get a certified plot done.
Can you imagine how much fun these guys would have trying to use a string-line to mark these property lines? I would get a lawn chair and an ice chest full of brew to watch the show.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 2:39 pm to Splackavellie
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Splackavellie
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Roughly, how far between corners?
600 feet
Posted on 9/23/24 at 2:41 pm to beerJeep
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beerJeep
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2 sticks and a rope………
You…. You can’t be serious, right?
It is 600 feet from one corner to the next. As others have mentioned and I already knew. Aint no way in hell in South La near the Vermilion Bay on flat land will I ever get a string of rope tight enough over 600 feet.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 2:43 pm to Tigerinthewoods
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Tigerinthewoods
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There is, and I have both. I've been a contractor for 50 years and have used both to do this very thing hundreds of times my friend.
As a contractor, what do you recommend (level or transit) for your everyday south louisiana baw to easily handle this himself and with hired help (beer and food)? Just looking to mark every 50 feet so I can get my fence poles situated on my line and not cause problems down the road.
TIA
Posted on 9/23/24 at 2:49 pm to ThatsAFactJack
If it is a perfect rectangle then you can use a string line. If not you might need a survey crew to get it accurate. Is there a map from a previous survey done for the property?
Posted on 9/23/24 at 2:52 pm to ThatsAFactJack
As a professional surveyor my advice is to call the original surveyor to set 2 or 3 additional monuments along your 600' boundary lines. Then you can run a string line between them for your fence.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 2:52 pm to ThatsAFactJack
Level is cheaper.
Set up directly over one corner.
Sight one of the other corners, get the vertical crosshairs in line with the second corner post. Lock it in.
Get a friend and start marking every 50/100ft as you wish with a 100ft tape.
Repeat for other lines.
Total station is easier with electronic distance measurement, but would cost more.
Set up directly over one corner.
Sight one of the other corners, get the vertical crosshairs in line with the second corner post. Lock it in.
Get a friend and start marking every 50/100ft as you wish with a 100ft tape.
Repeat for other lines.
Total station is easier with electronic distance measurement, but would cost more.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 3:03 pm to Tigers35
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Tigers35
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Level is cheaper.
Can this be rented and have line of site out to 600ft. I'm not seeing anything on Amazon with a line of sight to 600 feet. Seeing everything up to 400 feet.
I knew the oB would come through so I could do the work myself and gain a little knowledge.
TIA
Posted on 9/23/24 at 3:14 pm to Tigers35
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Level is cheaper.
Set up directly over one corner.
Would need the right equipment for this to be possible.
600' is a pretty far distance for a regular level.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 3:14 pm to ThatsAFactJack
Silva ranger and some flagging.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 3:15 pm to ThatsAFactJack
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what do you recommend (level or transit)
As you are on level ground, a level is sufficient.
Set up your level on the tripod and level it up on one corner directly over a rod marker and shoot to the another corner. Have a helper hold an 8' level (or a retractable elevation ruler) plumb (vertically) directly over the far corner marker. Lock your vertical crosshair onto that plumb level. Your sightline is now established.
Have your helper walk toward you 35 paces and re-establish the 8' level plumb on the vertical crosshair again. Mark it at the ground with a 10' nail with a piece of orange flagging tied on it. Repeat the process until you are 100' or so from your level. repeat the process until you have marked all perimeter lines.
Make sure your corners are legitimate before you waste your time!
If you are going to invest in more than a bobwire fence, you may want to get a certified plot done with intermediate markers. It will cost you.
If I were doing it myself, I would save the money. I trust my work.
Invest in something like this LINK
This post was edited on 9/23/24 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 9/23/24 at 3:49 pm to ThatsAFactJack
quote:if the Roman’s could map the empire accurately, so can you.
It is 600 feet from one corner to the next. As others have mentioned and I already knew. Aint no way in hell in South La near the Vermilion Bay on flat land will I ever get a string of rope tight enough over 600 feet.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 3:52 pm to beerJeep
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beerJeep
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if the Roman’s could map the empire accurately, so can you
Did the Roman's have to deal with a pissy neighbor because a line was 6 inches off? Doubtful. The Romans would just killem. I don't think I have that option and rather not end up in a legal battle when a couple hundred bucks in equipment would make it a simple job.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 3:54 pm to ThatsAFactJack
Mark it in accordance with OnX.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 3:55 pm to Tigerinthewoods
A level is used for elevations. For marking a straight line a transit, total station or survey grade GPS is used. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing and will get you in trouble.
I made a living going to court over property owners or non surveyors marking property lines.
I made a living going to court over property owners or non surveyors marking property lines.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 3:57 pm to rodnreel
quote:My previous comment and advice is also based on being a professional surveyor myself.
As a professional surveyor my advice is to call the original surveyor.
600' is a long arse sight light for an Amazon level...
And as mentioned numerous times, make damn sure those are actually your corners. And are actually record corners placed by a surveyor, not just some Joe Blow coonass know-it-all landowner. 1600' of wrong fence aint cheap...
quote:A level doesnt make it a "simple" job. If you're concerned with 6" pissing a neighbor off, I WOULD NOT do this yourself, especially with a level and 600' sight lines.
I don't think I have that option and rather not end up in a legal battle when a couple hundred bucks in equipment would make it a simple job.
A "correctly" placed line also doesnt absolve you from a legal battle. All it takes is a neighbor to contradict it with no hard evidence outside of "word of mouth" and "intent" of previous landowners. Btw, I'm sure Rodnreel will agree, that neighbor will also most likely win in those cases...
This post was edited on 9/23/24 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 9/23/24 at 4:01 pm to 257WBY
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Mark it in accordance with OnX.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 4:02 pm to ThatsAFactJack
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Did the Roman's have to deal with a pissy neighbor because a line was 6 inches off? Doubtful.
The trees in teutoburg forest would like to have a word.
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I don't think I have that option and rather not end up in a legal battle when a couple hundred bucks in equipment would make it a simple job.
Or 2 sticks, a rope, and a few hours of time if ya wanna be cheap.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 4:10 pm to Antib551
we've used 24" painted stakes...
top couple of inches are orange painted. get somebody with a spoting scope to shoot from one point to the other and use hand signals to let the other guy know when in line to set one...
can usually get them in bundles of 50 or so...
top couple of inches are orange painted. get somebody with a spoting scope to shoot from one point to the other and use hand signals to let the other guy know when in line to set one...
can usually get them in bundles of 50 or so...
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