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re: Assumption Parish sink hole environmental impact: Links in OP

Posted on 8/16/12 at 9:52 am to
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 8/16/12 at 9:52 am to
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It could be very easily unsealed.


I have no first-hand knowledge, but it sounds like it was cemented in, not "plugged." Also, you are assuming it is surface water that contacted the dome and not aquifer. If the tremors were naturally-occurring (still a distinct possibility) it could have opened fissures to the local aquifer. Also, that is assuming that the water-salt contact occurred before the collapse, which cannot be confirmed. Either way, the well is only one of several ways that water could impact the dome.

Like CAPT ST said, the proximity to the outer edge of the dome could indicate that the well was compromised from the inside. This seems to be the current suspect.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 8/16/12 at 9:54 am to
The water could follow the same paths as the bubbles, for what it's worth.
Posted by hardhead
stinky bayou
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 8/16/12 at 10:02 am to
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The water could follow the same paths as the bubbles, for what it's worth.


this is true and this is probable.

The point that I am trying to make is the way to identify the source of the problem, which is step 1, is through the existing wellbore.

It seems that the cause of the bubbles is not known, (or maybe just has not been made public).
Posted by hardhead
stinky bayou
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Posted on 8/16/12 at 10:09 am to
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it is surface water that contacted the dome and not aquifer.


Definately not making that assumption. A fresh water aquifer could very well, and in my opinion, is the source. The welbore would likely be the avenue though.

The welbore may not be the source but that is the first thing I would test. It is the prime suspect so test it and then rule it out first. It would also be the easiest thing to fix, if not the only thing that is fixable.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 8/16/12 at 10:12 am to
Pretty sure it's surface water
Posted by hardhead
stinky bayou
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Posted on 8/16/12 at 10:17 am to
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DownshiftAndFloorIt


Are there any reports of red diesel showing up around the bubble sights?
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 8/16/12 at 10:18 am to
If there is they're keeping it quiet. I don't know about it if there is.
Posted by hardhead
stinky bayou
Member since Jun 2009
5747 posts
Posted on 8/16/12 at 10:25 am to
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keeping it quiet


It seems like this is rampant. Things are not adding up from the info I am getting from the websites.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 8/16/12 at 10:31 am to
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It seems like this is rampant


Always will be with this kind of event.

I wouldn't trust much that you get off the interwebs other than quotes from what the people involved are saying. There's so much speculation going on out there that it's pretty much impossible to sort out fact and fiction.
Posted by Nodust
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 8/16/12 at 10:31 am to
Has the test (relief) well been started yet?
Posted by hardhead
stinky bayou
Member since Jun 2009
5747 posts
Posted on 8/16/12 at 10:35 am to
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Always will be with this kind of event.


to an extent it needs to be.

there are lots of things that could cause panic and chaos that should not. It makes it very hard for the proper people to do a good job if they have to write a report all day, especialy when there is a reporter from the DNR and DEQ already there. (for the record one of them is HOT)
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 8/16/12 at 10:38 am to
Yea it's for the better. Those people need to be allowed to do their jobs without the public trying to firebomb them constantly.

quote:

for the record one of them is HOT


Yes indeed.

Posted by Nodust
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 8/16/12 at 10:45 am to
Pics or it's not true
Posted by Coon
La 56 Southbound
Member since Feb 2005
18563 posts
Posted on 8/16/12 at 11:23 am to
latest press release:

quote:

During cleanup activities this morning, an additional 50’ feet of property on the SW side of the site fell into the sinkhole. Two cleanup workers in a boat, which was tied to a tree in that area, were rescued via airboat and shortly thereafter, their boat sunk into the sinkhole. All workers have been accounted for and no injuries have been reported. At the present time, clean up operations at the site have been suspended.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
71079 posts
Posted on 8/16/12 at 11:24 am to
That's not surprising.

The whole area is pretty unstable right now.
Posted by Capt ST
High Plains
Member since Aug 2011
13498 posts
Posted on 8/16/12 at 11:47 am to
I have a friend who's company is running some piping on the site, I told one of his employees jokingly yesterday that he should wear a lifejacket while installing which he didn't find as funny as we did. Kid probably quit today after hearing that news.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/16/12 at 11:50 am to
Interesting story...

quote:

H-Bomb explosion equivalent in Bayou Corne possible


quote:

Louisiana Sink Hole Explained -- POSSIBLE HUGE CATASTROPHE -- 100 Hiroshimas




LINK

LINK

Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 8/16/12 at 12:50 pm to
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is through the existing wellbore


There is no existing wellbore. It was cemented in.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 8/16/12 at 12:57 pm to
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H-Bomb explosion equivalent in Bayou Corne possibl


Hyperbole of the worst kind. Calling someone a scientist does not mean they know wtf they're talking about. Did they ask a biologist or a nuclear physicist?

If you read that idiotic piece of shite they're calling an article, it's summing the full potential energy of the ENTIRE cavern. There will not be enough oxygen in the local area to fuel that type of explosion.
Posted by hardhead
stinky bayou
Member since Jun 2009
5747 posts
Posted on 8/16/12 at 2:31 pm to
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It was cemented in.


there is probably a cement plug. pick up a coil and mill it out

If they did bring cement to surface then they are fricked.
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