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re: alone tv show, what 10 Items ?

Posted on 12/9/18 at 11:15 am to
Posted by entre
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Posted on 12/9/18 at 11:15 am to
sure, with just a pot a knife and flint and steel. You'd have to cheat and bring char cloth, or you'd freeze the first night there.
Posted by LSUintheNW
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Posted on 12/9/18 at 11:19 am to
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You'd have to cheat and bring char cloth, or you'd freeze the first night there.


You think?

Nah, wouldn't be my first time making a fire in the rain.
Posted by entre
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Posted on 12/9/18 at 11:25 am to
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if you make baked clay balls with care, you can have plenty of "ammo" for shots that are not worthy of an arrow (ie, birds out on the water, small birds in the brush, mice, chipmunks). make a scoop-measure so that you get the same amount of clay in each ball, and roll them between split log-halves, that you've flattened with the e tool, your multitool and rubbing on sand-coated rocks.

Stones dont' fly straight, cause they aint round and they are not of a consistent weight or size. Dont waste an opportunity or your time on them. I messed with them for 100's of hours as a kid, cause I didn't realize all their limitations.

Stones can entertain you with target practice, but all they will do (if you try to hunt with them) is make the critters very much afraid of you, making it a lot harder for you to arrow or trap
them.
Posted by entre
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Posted on 12/9/18 at 11:32 am to
Posted by entre
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Posted on 12/9/18 at 11:35 am to
Sure, dude. if you get to cheat, like I said. Getting a fire going is just the start. You have to keep it sheltered, keep getting wood to it, build a shelter, boil water to drink, then wait for it to cool, etc. Youl'll be freezing your arse off, all wet, wood's all wet, smoking, choking you as you try to dry things and warm up beside it. I've been there and it sucks the big green weinie. You go in mid to late October, and the rain can go on for days and nights, without a break, high winds, etc. You dont get to pick nice, warm sunny, still weather.

Sure, you can wear a rainsuit, but you get wet inside of it anyway, from the body moisture given off while you try to get everything done before it gets too dark to do anything. Wool retains a bit of its insulative value when wet, but it takes forever to dry out. Once you start shivering as hard as you WILL be, it becomes impossible to do anything in the way of fine manipulation, which flint and steel most certainly does require.
This post was edited on 12/9/18 at 2:49 pm
Posted by LSUintheNW
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Posted on 12/9/18 at 11:48 am to
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sure, dude. if you get to cheat, like I said


Ah, so I must cheat because you say so?

It's 2 weeks and I've lived in that environment most of my life.

I have some ability in the woods. I think I would be ok.

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You go in mid to late October, and the rain can go on for days and nights


This year October/November was amazing weather wise with lots of
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nice, warm sunny, still weather. 


I've lived in the NW most of my life. I understand the local weather more than anyone here besides maybe Roger. I also understand the local food sources and where to get it.
Posted by SportTiger1
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Posted on 12/9/18 at 2:26 pm to
The guy has already made up his mind that he's the only one that could do it.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 12/9/18 at 2:39 pm to
this thread has the miraculous distinction of being both very informative and very odd
Posted by entre
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Posted on 12/9/18 at 2:44 pm to
what food sources? Juicing the kelp and netting the fish are the only ways to get the 3000 calories per day that you're going to need under those conditions.

Of course I'm not the only one who can do it, now that I've been posting how to do it for 3 years, with 1000's of people reading those posts. But nobody's going to do it the way everyone else has tried to do it, other than by being fat and lucky. The fattest guy has won every season so far.
This post was edited on 12/9/18 at 2:46 pm
Posted by entre
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Posted on 12/9/18 at 2:47 pm to
Every last one of them has "thought" they could do it, but every last one of them has just starved, despite having 10x the gear you claim you can do it with. :-) Btw, flint and steel is not on the list of allowed gear. If you knew as much as you claim, you'd take a tarp instead of the pot, and you'd take saw, with the back of it sharpened to a knife edge, instead of just a knife. You dont get to pick your sport. You are dumped off wherever the lottery says you get dumped and you have to stay in about a 5 square mile area. Without a tarp to serve as a rain catch and shelter, and a way to easily cut big wood, you can be in real trouble the first day, actually. You can always stone-boil in a hole in the ground, lined with the tarp, lining the tarp with gravel/sand to protect it from the hot stones. Millions of people live in the NW, so that's obviously no qualification at all. Having to scratch together a primitive shelter, with everything drenched, slimy, while you suffer in cold wind and rain (most likely), with just knife to try to cut poles that are strong enough to need all the crud you'll need atop of it to shed that rain, is going to take you days, dude.
This post was edited on 12/9/18 at 2:56 pm
Posted by LSUintheNW
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Posted on 12/9/18 at 2:54 pm to
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what food sources?


I figured you knew.

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Juicing the kelp and netting the fish are the only ways to get the 3000 calories per day


I guess you don't know.


Posted by entre
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Posted on 12/9/18 at 2:57 pm to
see, you dont know. You're just talking crap. I laid out my sources, but you're gonna pretend like you know a "secret", like some little kid. Plant foods offer 600 calories per lb, typically, ready to eat and if you eat the needed 5 lbs per day, you'll do nothing but squat, all day and all night. :-) People pretend that lichens and cambium are enough, but they aint. That time of the year, nearly everything's died back for the winter, and you burn as many calories harvesting cambium as it has to offer. The woods are so wet that everything that's fallon on the ground rots within a day or 2.
This post was edited on 12/9/18 at 3:00 pm
Posted by LSUintheNW
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Posted on 12/9/18 at 2:58 pm to


Posted by jimbeam
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Posted on 12/9/18 at 2:59 pm to
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Posted by entre
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Posted on 12/9/18 at 3:00 pm to
might as well show a supermarket. You wont be finding any grain fields on the shores of Vancouver Island. Everyone "thinks" that they are Robin Hood, Danl Boone, Paul Bunyan, and Ernest Hemingway, until they're really out in it. Then they run home crying. People dont even know how many calories they need per day, or how many calories a lb of any given food offers (and that's IF you dont burn it, or let it spoil). Dummies like Ted Baird eat rotten fish, and are worthless for the remaining month of the challenge. Jim had to try to feed both of them.

Only 1/4 of a crab's live weight is edible flesh and that flesh, ready to eat, offers only 400 calories per lb, So you'd have to catch 30 lbs of crabs, ever day. :-) Not gonna happen.
This post was edited on 12/9/18 at 3:07 pm
Posted by LSUintheNW
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Posted on 12/9/18 at 3:03 pm to
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You wont be finding any grain fields on the shore of Vancouver Island.



Nope, but you will easily find razor clams.
Posted by cave canem
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Posted on 12/10/18 at 6:01 am to
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you wouldn't last 2 weeks on Vancouver Island with just flint and steel,knife and pot, in the late fall when they drop you off. Nobody could. They have weeks in a row of constant rain, and it's COLD, windy, etc. VI gets 140+ inches of rain each year, with more of it in the fall/winter, of course. So figure on 20" of rain per month while you're there. Your primitive shelter will have to hold up 500+ lbs of wet debris. :-) You'll be soaked thru for days while you try to build such a shelter, and hypothermia and/or pneumonia will soon down you.

Lots of vids about what they've faced.

LINK

You dont want to be chopping in wet, cold, windy, steep, boulders, slimy conditions, folks. 2 people have cut themselves badly on this show and had to be evacced. Two more have hurt themselves badly by falling. If you know what you're doing, you dont need that much firewood and you dont need a cabin. You only need a doubled-tarp shelter on Vancouver, cause it rarely freezes. A cabin wont suffice in Mongolia, cause you wont have the stored food needed to give you energy to gather enough firewood to keep it heated. You need to be in a dugout shelter, with a foot thick layer of compacted dry grass around and above you, and 2 ft of it packed under you. Given warm clothing and a sleeping bag, you wont need a fire. you can take at least 5 gallons of water in the dugout with you, in the rainsuit. It wont freeze because of the insulation and your body heat. Your mouse-trap bucket becomes your waste bucket. Dry your wastes with dirt, of course. Emerge once a week, to melt ice/snow for drinking water, and to dispose of wastes. Before the first hard freeze, dig a 1 ft deep, 2x2 ft hole, line it with a tarp, so that you can stone boil in it, to melt the ice for drinking water.



Seems you have all the internet knowledge available but are missing one thing, the simple fact that mankind survived for tens of thousands of years without any of the stuff you are going on about and simple stone tools.

In order to survive you absolutely must have one thing, a working brain, the rest are luxuries and labor saving devices.
Posted by Junky
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Posted on 12/10/18 at 7:59 am to
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you are only allowed a max of 4 lbs of food.


AH, I missed the selection part. Don't get me started on a caloric CICO rant this morning this is the wrong board for it anyway.

They put a ton of qualifications on this that wouldn't necessarily be real life. I don't watch the show, or much any tv besides the saints.
This post was edited on 12/10/18 at 8:00 am
Posted by entre
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Posted on 12/10/18 at 9:13 am to
i"m not missing anything, dude. Mankind had HELP, didn't get dropped off in the fall, in horrible environments. They developed where life was EASY, and within groups and billions of them perished as they learned what to do. there's just ONE of you, have you noticed that? So, when you screw up, you've lost it ALL, regardless of somebody winning and the species continuing. Early man had several times our level of strengh, endurance, immunological resistance.
This post was edited on 12/10/18 at 9:14 am
Posted by entre
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 12/10/18 at 9:18 am to
They often suffer red tides around Vancouver, so go ahead, take the chance of poisoning yourself with clams, and no, razor clams are NOT easily found out in the rain, the cold, the wind, either.

There's 7 calories in a razor clam, typically, so you need to eat 50 of them per day, every day for 90 days. Good luck with that. The Baird bros and others tried to subsist on crabs, etc, but starved just like everyone else. Netting is FAR superior. You people suffer from
NIH syndrome. You think you're special. If YOU
didn't think of it, no way it can be any good.

You dont even take the trouble to google how many calories you need out there, nor how many calories a given food provides. You just THINK you know something. Well, all 57 failures thought they knew, too. Since you're just as lazy and arrogant-presumptive as they were, you'll suffer the same fate. Refusal to do the needed homework=failure
This post was edited on 12/10/18 at 9:27 am
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