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re: All terrains vs mud tires

Posted on 5/18/15 at 1:26 pm to
Posted by Sparkplug#1
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 5/18/15 at 1:26 pm to
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I think the stock rims are only 6.5" wide. You can get away with up to about 11.5" wide with radials but bias ply tires would die a very early death.



i find tall skinny tires track much less than a wide tire that pulls left or right.
Posted by Loubacca
sittin on the dock of the bay
Member since Feb 2005
4019 posts
Posted on 5/18/15 at 1:44 pm to
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My next set of tires will be more of a mud tread. Why? I drive a lot on rock roads and the current AT2 hold rocks in the treads. This throws my tire balance off causing the tires to scallop. The mud tread I chose will be open to prevent/limit the amount of rocks held between treads


I would look into the Cooper St Maxx if you will be on rocky terrain. With the 3-ply sidewall it's a great tire for that application. It's the unofficial tire of the oilfields in West Texas.
Posted by MWP
Kingwood, TX via Monroe, LA
Member since Jul 2013
10429 posts
Posted on 5/18/15 at 1:48 pm to
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How good or bad do all terrains perform in mud? What are some good all terrain brands or styles?
Should I forget the all terrains and stay with the "mud" style tires. I currently have a 10 minute drive to work, so I don't put lots of miles on a truck.


I work in the pipeline construction business and see mud and my winch often. If you think that you can get by with AT's then you really don't need mud tires. AT's really suck in the mud.
Posted by upgrade
Member since Jul 2011
13022 posts
Posted on 5/18/15 at 2:00 pm to
My trucks don't see deep mud, I've worked hard to improve the road at my hunting camp.
I used to work for a cement company, and got tons of free cement to fill in deep holes.
But new holes still pop up. I'm pretty sure I can get by fine with some good all terrains, I've just never bought any before and don't know what the best brands are. If I put a lot of miles on my truck, I'd never consider mud tires anymore. But I live close to work and the hunting camp, so mud tires don't get worn down too quickly, so I always figured why not get them. The BFG's look nice and I'll consider getting those.
Posted by blackmamba
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2011
765 posts
Posted on 5/18/15 at 2:03 pm to
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I currently have a 10 minute drive to work, so I don't put lots of miles on a truck.

Might as well look good for the ten minute ride.
quote:

How good or bad do all terrains perform in mud?

Depends on the type of mud but I have never seen an all terrain tire perform well in mud. Usually just slide all over the place.

I would recommend the Toyo Open Country MT's or the Nitto Trail grapplers. They aren't obnoxiously loud, they both have decent tread life, and both look good.
Posted by MWP
Kingwood, TX via Monroe, LA
Member since Jul 2013
10429 posts
Posted on 5/18/15 at 2:04 pm to
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The BFG's look nice and I'll consider getting those.


I have run many sets of BFG MT's. The new style isn't really as good as the older style. I would get the Toyo MT's. They clear pretty good and if you rotate them, they last pretty decent.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 5/18/15 at 2:06 pm to
ST MAXX

Posted by Sparkplug#1
Member since May 2013
7352 posts
Posted on 5/18/15 at 2:15 pm to
i find the Toyo's get brittle/hard and will throw chucks of tread on roots and rocks.
Posted by Sparkplug#1
Member since May 2013
7352 posts
Posted on 5/18/15 at 2:54 pm to
if you travel in heavy thick mud or clay and don't want MT's, you can throw these on when needed. I didn't pay that much for these, but it is a total game changer when in mud or steep grades. They only take a few minutes to install. As you can see, I have MT's, but the mud chains are the way to go. It now runs these chains and it will take on anything other than getting high centered. its night and day.

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Posted by Triggerr
Member since Jul 2013
1891 posts
Posted on 5/18/15 at 7:57 pm to
Just picked up a set of 285/75/16 BFF AT KO2 for my truck, less than $1,000 out the door for tires and mounting etc. I have had 10+ sets of the regular AT KO tires and they have always performed well on and off the highway.
Posted by Raz4back
Member since Mar 2011
3950 posts
Posted on 5/18/15 at 8:22 pm to
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I'm seriously considering the Goodyear Duratracs


I put a set on my Tacoma in February. They have been great so far.
Posted by convertedtiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
2786 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 9:00 am to
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I put a set on my Tacoma in February. They have been great so far.


Thanks. How's the road noise on them?
Posted by CootDisCootDat
St. Charles, The Community
Member since May 2014
1643 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 9:11 am to
I put 34" Duratracs on my 2012 Ram Sport at 500 miles. Almost have 24k miles now and they still look fairly new. Road noise is minimal compared to other brands I've ridden on. Also, it is still the smoothest truck I've ever driven, even with the mud tires.

FWIW a friend told me he's gotten 70k+ miles on the Duratracs.
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
13880 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 10:02 am to
Where was this photo taken? Looks like a tropical island.
Posted by Tic44
Neville
Member since May 2015
1581 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 10:21 am to
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I've bought nothing but Cooper at3's for the past 10 years. I've never got stuck


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Posted by convertedtiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
2786 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 1:15 pm to
quote:

I put 34" Duratracs on my 2012 Ram Sport at 500 miles. Almost have 24k miles now and they still look fairly new. Road noise is minimal compared to other brands I've ridden on. Also, it is still the smoothest truck I've ever driven, even with the mud tires.

FWIW a friend told me he's gotten 70k+ miles on the Duratracs.



Did you get the LT or the P version of these?
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 1:30 pm to
LT = light truck
P = passenger
Posted by Raz4back
Member since Mar 2011
3950 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 1:31 pm to
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Thanks. How's the road noise on them?


Not bad at all. They have a little hum at highway speed, but I only hear it with the radio off.

Mine are P rated (tacomas come from the factory with P rated tires) but I would run LTs on a full size truck.
This post was edited on 5/19/15 at 1:36 pm
Posted by CootDisCootDat
St. Charles, The Community
Member since May 2014
1643 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 1:32 pm to
LT- I think the tires were around $1200.
It was right at $1600 for the mount/balance/2" level install.

ETA: Front end alignment and the damn disposal fee too, even though I took and sold my factory tires for $600 on Craigs list.
This post was edited on 5/19/15 at 1:36 pm
Posted by convertedtiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
2786 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 1:37 pm to
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LT- I think the tires were around $1200.


Thanks, I assume many put LT tires on a truck that is P rated, What are the risks of doing this? My F150 4X4 is rated for P275/65R18's Will I lose gas mileage, more wear on the truck?
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