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re: .444 Marlin or 45-70?
Posted on 12/14/11 at 7:16 pm to NorthLABoy
Posted on 12/14/11 at 7:16 pm to NorthLABoy
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3 shots in a 2 inch group at 100 yards
That gun is capable of shooting much better than that. If you'd like to get the groups smaller you may want to try some different bullets.
2" is plenty good enough for deer hunting though.
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Posted on 12/14/11 at 7:17 pm to NorthLABoy
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NorthLABoy
i usually hunt with my oldest son's youth model single shot .243. i love that gun. small, light, and accurate.
Posted on 12/14/11 at 7:18 pm to MsandLa
Heck.. if you're wanting to be different...
Uberti 1885 High Wall, chambered in .45/120, with a 32" barrel.
Its only $1200.
Uberti 1885 High Wall, chambered in .45/120, with a 32" barrel.
Its only $1200.
Posted on 12/14/11 at 7:19 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Or you can get a .500 S&W if you don't mind paying for the bullets.
buddy has a 454 casul (sp?). nice pistol but i couldnt afford to shoot it much.
Posted on 12/14/11 at 7:21 pm to coloradoBengal
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coloradoBengal
where can i get that? i might pick up three or four of those bitches. i got wifes credit card in wallet!
Posted on 12/14/11 at 7:22 pm to MsandLa
Oh no I'm talking about that caliber in the handi-rifle. A .500 S&W crack barrel would be cool as hell.
Posted on 12/14/11 at 7:27 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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A .500 S&W crack barrel would be cool as hell.
i have seen those.
i think you can buy different caliber barrels in the handi rifle. years ago i remember looking at a list of barrels you could buy. pretty cool stuff.
Posted on 12/14/11 at 7:34 pm to MsandLa
Actually, what would be really cool would be a .460 S&W. Supposedly a 200 yard caliber out of a handgun. I bet it would shoot very flat out of a 22" barrel.
Posted on 12/14/11 at 8:06 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
I have a .500 S&W. expensive to shoot but deer dont like it. not too bad on recoil. 
Posted on 12/15/11 at 7:54 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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That gun is capable of shooting much better than that. If you'd like to get the groups smaller you may want to try some different bullets.
2" is plenty good enough for deer hunting though.
Oh yes I am sure the gun is capable of much better shooting and as you mentioned different ammo and better glass would help. Also a better shooter would help. I am by no means, nor claim to be, a great shot, but it definitely gets the job done.
Posted on 12/15/11 at 11:19 am to coloradoBengal
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The .444 is one of those calibers that I don't understand where it came from.
.444 was developed from the .44 magnum round, which is actually .429. The 444 is just a marketing angle
Posted on 12/15/11 at 11:28 am to NorthLABoy
I have a 444. I don't have any experience with a 45-70. The 444 is a beast though.
Posted on 12/15/11 at 11:46 am to MsandLa
I read on here a while back that the .35 whelen would be legalized next year in La. I can't confirm that though. They are VERY popular up here in Central Ms. I recently got a 44 mag. I figured it would do what I needed it for and one day my son could use it to learn to shoot a rifle. The 444's and 45/70's just kick too dang much!
Posted on 12/15/11 at 11:48 am to MsandLa
I have a Knight KP1 .45-70 it's a mule and it doesn't fricking play.
Posted on 12/15/11 at 12:33 pm to LSU_Lou
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.35 whelen would be legalized next year in La. I
just got back from academy in hammond. the guy behind counter said the same thing.
he wasnt a very good salesman. told me i should wait until louisiana ok's it and get one then.
Posted on 12/15/11 at 1:02 pm to MsandLa
To be honest it just chot it before its it comes down to personal preference. I have both and shoot the 45-70 far more often. It has killed many deer and puts them down hard. I would also wait to get the .35 if they legalize it. I have shot it and its just a really effective round and not as bad on the sholder. THe main thing with the handi rifle is the hard trigger pull. I got a gun smith to soften both of mine and I shoot much better with them. Good luck
Posted on 12/15/11 at 1:03 pm to MsandLa
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he wasnt a very good salesman. told me i should wait until louisiana ok's it and get one then.
For $269 get the 45-70 now and a 35 whelen when its legal.
Posted on 12/15/11 at 1:05 pm to LSU_Lou
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I read on here a while back that the .35 whelen would be legalized next year in La
Does anyone know if there is a difference in the .35whelen and the .35remington?
I have a Marlin lever action .35remington my grandfather gave me. I just explain it as a 30-30 on roide! It's an awesome round.
Posted on 12/15/11 at 5:28 pm to NorthLABoy
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Does anyone know if there is a difference in the .35whelen and the .35remington?
Yes, there IS a difference. The two rounds are VERY different. Here's some additional info.
LINK
Posted on 12/15/11 at 5:36 pm to TigerOnThe Hill
MsandLa,
For deer hunting at ranges appropriate for the 444 Marlin or 45/70, the deer will not know the difference. (Neither will your shoulder....It'll still hurt!) Using factory loads, 45/70 will push a 350 gr bullet to 1800 fps. The 444 will push a 240 gr bullet to 2400 fps. The factory 45/70 loads run at reduced pressure in deference to older 45/70 guns out there that might kaboom w/ higher pressure loads. Consequently, if loading for a modern constuction gun (like the Handi-Rifle), a careful handloader can greatly improve the 45/70, making it more versatile than the 444. If you don't handload, I'd get whichever round you can most easily get factory loaded ammo for. As already mentioned, there are a LOT of newer loads available, especially w/ the LeveRevolution loads.
45-70 info
LINK
444 Marlin info
LINK
For deer hunting at ranges appropriate for the 444 Marlin or 45/70, the deer will not know the difference. (Neither will your shoulder....It'll still hurt!) Using factory loads, 45/70 will push a 350 gr bullet to 1800 fps. The 444 will push a 240 gr bullet to 2400 fps. The factory 45/70 loads run at reduced pressure in deference to older 45/70 guns out there that might kaboom w/ higher pressure loads. Consequently, if loading for a modern constuction gun (like the Handi-Rifle), a careful handloader can greatly improve the 45/70, making it more versatile than the 444. If you don't handload, I'd get whichever round you can most easily get factory loaded ammo for. As already mentioned, there are a LOT of newer loads available, especially w/ the LeveRevolution loads.
45-70 info
LINK
444 Marlin info
LINK
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