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re: 13-14 waterfowl season *dates announced*
Posted on 8/2/13 at 9:03 am to xenon16
Posted on 8/2/13 at 9:03 am to xenon16
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West Zone: Nov. 16 - Dec. 15 and Dec. 21 - Jan. 19. Youth Hunt: Nov. 9 and Jan. 25
West Zone in the house.
EVERY DAMN WEEKEND
ETA: Nevermind, I forgot I was having a kid on October 3, yall have a good season
This post was edited on 8/2/13 at 9:05 am
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Posted on 8/2/13 at 9:06 am to LSUballs
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This no dove hunting on labor day weekend BS that rolls around every few years if for the birds.
couldn't say it better myself
Posted on 8/2/13 at 9:09 am to Polar Pop
Posted on 8/2/13 at 9:16 am to LSUballs
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Will LA ever open a dove season in August? This no dove hunting on labor day weekend BS that rolls around every few years if for the birds.
No.
No-one is allowed to open the dove season in August, just like we can't shoot ducks earlier than the last Saturday in September or shoot Canada geese later than January 31 or shoot snipe later than the last day in February. Those are the federal framework regulations. Dove season can open no earlier than Septemeber 1rst.
If you are unhappy that there is no dove hunting over Labor Day weekend, then the complaint shouldn't be that LDWF won't open the dove season in August (we can't). It should be that LDWF decided to not open the season on a Sunday in favor of opening the following Saturday. That was the functional choice. I don't make recommendations on the dove seasons, but I know a lot of thought went into that particular decision.
Posted on 8/2/13 at 9:18 am to Lreynolds
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Lreynolds
Always shows up to spew knowledge upon the unknowing.
Posted on 8/2/13 at 9:20 am to Lreynolds
Its a lose lose situation with the dove season imo.
Sucks opening up on a Sunday at 2 pm in Mississippi.
But it also suck losing out on Labor day hunting in Louisiana.
Unless the Feds change, the states will run into this issue every few years
Sucks opening up on a Sunday at 2 pm in Mississippi.
But it also suck losing out on Labor day hunting in Louisiana.
Unless the Feds change, the states will run into this issue every few years
Posted on 8/2/13 at 9:40 am to Lreynolds
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If you are unhappy that there is no dove hunting over Labor Day weekend
I am.
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then the complaint shouldn't be that LDWF won't open the dove season in August (we can't).
Gotcha. When Land Mass and Texas people were talking about their season opening on Labor day weekend I assumed it was on Saturday, not Sunday.
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It should be that LDWF decided to not open the season on a Sunday in favor of opening the following Saturday.
I would prefer the Sunday opening myself. Preferably at daylight as opposed to noon. Keep that in mind next time there is a screwed up Labor day year. Thanks Larry, you're the best.
This post was edited on 8/2/13 at 9:41 am
Posted on 8/2/13 at 9:52 am to LSUballs
Landmass opens at 2PM on Sunday... I am guessing they wanted to keep the sabbath as much as possible.
I personally enjoy the morning dove hunt the most.
I personally enjoy the morning dove hunt the most.
Posted on 8/2/13 at 9:59 am to Lreynolds
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Lreynolds
Could you shed some light on dove season always opening after noon? I am sure there is a reason for it, I have just never heard it and am genuinely curious. I rarely dove hunt, so it doesn't really affect me, I just like to know things.
Posted on 8/2/13 at 11:06 am to The Last Coco
I'm no LReynolds, but the way I understand the noon opening, it is to allow the opportunity for more people to participate. I don't think the noon opener is a Federal restriction. I think other states open at the regular 30 mins prior time. Other states run the noon start time out for a week or so.
Anyone know why the coastal zone open first? It would seem that the birds would get there last
Anyone know why the coastal zone open first? It would seem that the birds would get there last
This post was edited on 8/2/13 at 11:13 am
Posted on 8/2/13 at 1:20 pm to xenon16
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I'm no LReynolds, but the way I understand the noon opening, it is to allow the opportunity for more people to participate. I don't think the noon opener is a Federal restriction. I think other states open at the regular 30 mins prior time. Other states run the noon start time out for a week or so.
You answered as well as I could ...... I've heard anecdotes about the "social aspects" of a southern dove opener being the primary reason. It is indeed a state option, not a federal regulation.
Posted on 8/2/13 at 1:28 pm to poule deau
Guess I'm buying a Canada goose call. Does anybody have a map of where you can't kill them?
Posted on 8/2/13 at 1:30 pm to xenon16
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Anyone know why the coastal zone open first? It would seem that the birds would get there last
Actually large groups of migrants tend to hit the coast first. Why? From an evolutionary perspective, coastal wetlands are more predictable, and birds can depend on them being available to meet their needs. One result of the pintail telemetry work of the early-90's was that many of those birds migrate to the coast, then after a couple of good rainfall events, migrate back north to habitats that are likely wetter and newly flooded (fresh food sources).
But the most important reason the Coastal Zone season dates are earlier than the West or East Zones is because the harvest is more front-loaded in those habitats.
Hopefully, this will work .......
This is a summary of 10 years of harvest data from the old "West Zone" when all of these regions had the exact same season dates. Note how NW LA has a slighter later harvest profile than SW or SE. NW actually gets a boost when AR opens their season, which this year happens on Nov. 23. SW and SE are pretty much the same, but NW is a little different. I think this was the primary reason the season opens a week later in the new West Zone than in the Coastal.
The East Zone has always been later than the old West or new Coastal Zones because that region of the state tended to kill more mallards, which were later migrants.
Posted on 8/2/13 at 1:31 pm to xenon16
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noon opening, it is to allow the opportunity for more people to parti
This sucks because I love to leave people at the camp because they can't get out of bed.
Posted on 8/2/13 at 1:35 pm to LouisianaChessie
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Guess I'm buying a Canada goose call. Does anybody have a map of where you can't kill them?
Mostly south of the Intracoastal Waterway in Cameron and Vermilion Parishes east of the Calcasieu Ship Channel.
But here is the actual description of the Canada goose closure zone. It's pretty easy to draw on a map:
Beginning at the Texas state line, proceeding east along Hwy 82 to the Calcasieu Ship Channel, then north along the Calcasieu Ship Channel to its junction with the Intracoastal Canal, then east along the Intracoastal Canal to its juncture with LA Hwy 82, then south along LA Hwy 82 to its juncture with Parish road 3147 to Freshwater Bayou Canal, then south to the Gulf of Mexico, then west along the shoreline of the Gulf of Mexico to the Texas state line, then north to the point of beginning at LA Hwy 82. Open waters of Lake Arthur and the Mermentau River, from the Hwy 14 bridge southward, will also be closed to Canada goose hunting.
Posted on 8/2/13 at 1:43 pm to Lreynolds
Larry, you seem like a feller who truly enjoys his job and is damn good at it.
Posted on 8/2/13 at 1:52 pm to Lreynolds
Why is that 5th week so bad for all zones on that chart?
Posted on 8/2/13 at 2:26 pm to LSUballs
He is the best damn government worker I have ever had any interactions with.
By a landslide
By a landslide
Posted on 8/2/13 at 2:31 pm to Lreynolds
Larry,
I'd be really interested in seeing that whole presentation on harvest data etc.
Is that public information?
Thanks
I'd be really interested in seeing that whole presentation on harvest data etc.
Is that public information?
Thanks
Posted on 8/2/13 at 2:31 pm to GonePecan
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Why is that 5th week so bad for all zones on that chart?
It's in the split ..... the season is almost always closed during those dates.
I never expected to use that data summary as much as I have, and what we did was a rather quick summary, so it's a little messy.
In other words, every wing that hunters submit to the Parts Survey (wing bee) has a date killed, a Parish, and a nearest town. Because not all Parishes have participating selected hunters every year, I used 10 years of data (because the season dates were the same except for calendar adjustments) and summed it all together to make sure all Parishes were represented.
To get the weekly kill numbers, I started with the earliest the West Zone ever opened and took every 7 days.
We always opened the second Saturday of November, and that day can range from Nov. 8 to Nov. 14. So the first week might have got shorted a little bit in this summary because in some years a date like Nov 10 would be open and in some it would be closed. Likewise in week 4; sometimes Dec. 2 would be open and sometimes it would be in the split.
That effect is the same for all regions, so the comparison between regions is still valid, but to clean it up, I need to summarize each year separately into weeks before summing the 10 years. Theoretically, that would leave numbers in weeks 1-3, no data in weeks 4 and 5 (the split), and the rest of the data in weeks 6-10 with no data after that.
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