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WSJ - Regulators Accepted Gifts From Oil Industry, Report Says

Posted on 5/25/10 at 4:33 pm
Posted by splastiko
Member since Sep 2009
787 posts
Posted on 5/25/10 at 4:33 pm
Did a quick search, and didn't see this posted..

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WASHINGTON—Employees of a federal agency that regulates offshore drilling—including some whose duties included inspecting offshore oil rigs—accepted sporting-event tickets, meals, and other gifts from oil and natural-gas companies and used government computers to view pornography, according to a new report by the Interior Department's inspector general. The report—published Tuesday on the inspector general's website—describes a culture in which inspectors assigned to the Lake Charles, La., office of the Minerals Management Service have moved with "ease" between jobs in industry and government, drawing on relationships that formed "well before they took their jobs" with the agency.
Posted by NukemVol
Member since Jan 2010
1693 posts
Posted on 5/25/10 at 4:36 pm to
Wouldn't be the first time.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 5/25/10 at 4:45 pm to
Posted by back9Tiger
Island Coconut Salesman
Member since Nov 2005
17645 posts
Posted on 5/25/10 at 5:08 pm to
this is why companies like Shell and ExxonMobil strictly forbid anyone taking any gifts, lunches over 25 dollars of any kind. The good ol boy system.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
129544 posts
Posted on 5/25/10 at 5:21 pm to
But no big news stories about politicians taking all kinds of shite from lobbyists.
Posted by BROffshoreTigerFan
Edmond, OK
Member since Oct 2007
10004 posts
Posted on 5/25/10 at 5:59 pm to
Yeah, name me an industry where this doesn't happen.
Posted by NukemVol
Member since Jan 2010
1693 posts
Posted on 5/25/10 at 6:06 pm to
I'm pretty sure as far as the sex, drugs, and alcohol, not all that many.
Posted by BROffshoreTigerFan
Edmond, OK
Member since Oct 2007
10004 posts
Posted on 5/25/10 at 6:25 pm to
Perhaps take a look at congress and the house of representatives and their criminal records. I guarantee that you find more filth there than in the oil field.

How about attorneys and judges? Corruption in the police departments. I could go on and on, and I could spend the next 3 hours on google and post link after link of the examples I just stated.

But yeah, O&G is the only corrupt industry.
Posted by tigerguy121
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2006
10695 posts
Posted on 5/25/10 at 6:34 pm to
quote:

Yeah, name me an industry where this doesn't happen.


yeah but these guys got caught.

It's like college football, everybody cheats but that doesn't give a school a free pass when they get caught doing it.
Posted by BROffshoreTigerFan
Edmond, OK
Member since Oct 2007
10004 posts
Posted on 5/25/10 at 6:51 pm to
Nobody said anything about a free pass. I'm saying there isn't a big conspiracy theory or even much to this unless something specific comes out where there were serious safety issues overlooked and MMS allowed it on this rig. All the shite that happened with gifts is old news and irrelevant to the reasons as to why the rig blew up and why the safety devices failed.
Posted by CoonassatTEXAS
Austin, TX
Member since Nov 2005
1243 posts
Posted on 5/25/10 at 6:53 pm to
i predict a shitload of MMS higher ups are about to get fired as they should.

Posted by tgrgrd00
Kenner, LA
Member since Jun 2004
10942 posts
Posted on 5/25/10 at 6:55 pm to
Oh the "everybody does it" excuse. That makes it ok. Nothing to see here.

The MMS is a huge group of scumbags that have been pawns for the oil and gas industry for a long time. They deserve the scrutiny and negative light being cast over them. The sooner they get fragmented the better imo.
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17772 posts
Posted on 5/25/10 at 6:56 pm to
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an inspector for the Minerals Management Service admitted using crystal methamphetamine and said he might have been under the influence of the drug the next day at work.
Posted by BROffshoreTigerFan
Edmond, OK
Member since Oct 2007
10004 posts
Posted on 5/25/10 at 7:04 pm to
quote:

Oh the "everybody does it" excuse. That makes it ok. Nothing to see here.


Perhaps you read another post by someone with a similar name that said something similar to your post above, but it wasn't me. In case you have trouble understanding what I meant, read the post by me two posts above your most recent one. If you can't find it, here it is:

Nobody said anything about a free pass. I'm saying there isn't a big conspiracy theory or even much to this unless something specific comes out where there were serious safety issues overlooked and MMS allowed it on this rig. All the shite that happened with gifts is old news and irrelevant to the reasons as to why the rig blew up and why the safety devices failed.

I didn't say it was okay. I said name me one that doesn't. You didn't, and all you did was twist my words to make it appear as if I said something else. Sort of like what the media does in their grandstanding and scare tactics in making out the whole O&G industry and MMS as one big slimy industry overrun with corruption and filth.

Are there people like that who work for MMS? Of course. Are there people like that who work in Congress? Of course. Are there people like that who work in Education? Of course.

I've worked with dozens of MMS field reps, and they are nothing like what the media makes them out to be.

As I said before, until something comes out where MMS intentionally overlooked an area that was out of compliance on the Deepwater Horizon because of what that report stated, that and this disaster have nothing to do with each other.
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17772 posts
Posted on 5/25/10 at 7:04 pm to
quote:

But yeah, O&G is the only corrupt industry


no but it is the one under the microscope right now, with 11 dead workers, and utter destruction unfolding, and when it comes out that the people in charge of regulating this industry are signing reports that company officals have filled out, taking bribes, jobs, etc it makes me sick, if everything came back clean as a whistle then I could buy that this was just an accident, but it is becoming more apparent that this could of been prevented. Does that excuse any of the BS that goes on in other industries, no
Posted by BROffshoreTigerFan
Edmond, OK
Member since Oct 2007
10004 posts
Posted on 5/25/10 at 7:06 pm to
quote:

The MMS is a huge group of scumbags that have been pawns for the oil and gas industry for a long time


FWIW, you could change up that comment and replace MMS with Wall Street, and oil and gas can be replaced with the banking industry, and you have just as accurate a statement.

MMS didn't cause this. Look other places for blame.
Posted by homecat
Member since May 2006
1317 posts
Posted on 5/25/10 at 7:09 pm to
All you do is agree with how wrong everytyhing is to do with this, then try to excuse it. Find another lin eo fwork because we're going to be closing the doors shut on offshore drilling.

Posted by BROffshoreTigerFan
Edmond, OK
Member since Oct 2007
10004 posts
Posted on 5/25/10 at 7:13 pm to
Jesus you're dense. I didn't try to excuse anything. I said that this report has nothing to do with the oil rig disaster, and I'll stand by that until you or one of the other posters can link a story that says otherwise. Nobody has done it yet.

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Find another lin eo fwork because we're going to be closing the doors shut on offshore drilling.


Since you're the expert, why don't you tell me what we're going to do for energy. List 5 things in your house that have no sort of petroleum product or by-product in them.

Your idiotic knee jerk reaction by saying we're going to shut down offshore drilling is just that; idiotic. My job is safe.
Posted by splastiko
Member since Sep 2009
787 posts
Posted on 5/25/10 at 7:17 pm to
quote:

Yeah, name me an industry where this doesn't happen.


I was just sharing the information, someone sent me the link earlier this afternoon. I agree this kinda shite goes on everywhere and all the time.
Posted by Tbobby
Member since Dec 2006
4358 posts
Posted on 5/25/10 at 7:20 pm to
quote:

List 5 things in your house that have no sort of petroleum product or by-product in them.


That is an interesting question. When you factor in transportation, I cannot think of a single thing.
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