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researched exxon valdez spill and lpng term effects....
Posted on 6/17/10 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 6/17/10 at 2:38 pm
it has never really fully recovered. this being worse i'm afraid our coast line and seafood industry will never be the same. it is so sad to see this happening right before our eyes and by the time its plugged it will be too late.the coast as all of us "small people" have known it is gone.
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Posted on 6/17/10 at 2:42 pm to LSUPEPPER
Do keep in mind that our coastline and climate should allow for a better rebound to a disturbance of this magnitude. Much more dynamic than Alaska.
Posted on 6/17/10 at 2:43 pm to LSUPEPPER
Prince William Sound
USGOM
not downplaying this but there is a lot more area in the gulf
kind of like covering you head in a garbage bag vs the superdome
USGOM
not downplaying this but there is a lot more area in the gulf
kind of like covering you head in a garbage bag vs the superdome
Posted on 6/17/10 at 2:47 pm to mylsuhat
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not downplaying this but there is a lot more area in the gulf
kind of like covering you head in a garbage bag vs the superdome
Posted on 6/17/10 at 2:51 pm to Sasquatch Smash
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Do keep in mind that our coastline and climate should allow for a better rebound to a disturbance of this magnitude.
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exxon valdez spill
We're getting the equivalent of this every four days.
You do the math.
Posted on 6/17/10 at 2:53 pm to Decatur
there is a difference between refined oil and crude as well
Posted on 6/17/10 at 2:56 pm to mylsuhat
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there is a difference between refined oil and crude as well
In terms of volume or toxicity?
Posted on 6/17/10 at 2:57 pm to Decatur
properties (weight, molecule make up, gas amounts)
crude breaks down much easier as well
crude breaks down much easier as well
Posted on 6/17/10 at 3:02 pm to mylsuhat
Seafood here is not a problem. The only problem is getting access to it. Next year other than maybe a few little isolated cases the oil will be a distant memory unless of course it is still flowing. I hear Obama is working on that.
The only reason the oil is still a factor in Alaska is because of the high pressure washing they did.
Down in the south the oil will get eaten quickly just like a dead fish doesn't sit around long. To many bacteria and stuff to eat it.
Contrary to popular belief, oil isn't some highly toxic, radio active substance that kills everything that comes within 80 yards of it.
The commercial fisherman are hurting because the Federal goverenment will not let the do their job, not because the fisheries has been devastated. There are more shrimp and trout and snapper right now in the gulf than there ever has been thanks to the fact that we are not being allowed to go out and kill them like we do every year.
The only reason the oil is still a factor in Alaska is because of the high pressure washing they did.
Down in the south the oil will get eaten quickly just like a dead fish doesn't sit around long. To many bacteria and stuff to eat it.
Contrary to popular belief, oil isn't some highly toxic, radio active substance that kills everything that comes within 80 yards of it.
The commercial fisherman are hurting because the Federal goverenment will not let the do their job, not because the fisheries has been devastated. There are more shrimp and trout and snapper right now in the gulf than there ever has been thanks to the fact that we are not being allowed to go out and kill them like we do every year.
Posted on 6/17/10 at 3:08 pm to omegaman66
quote:which could likely cause a mass fish kill which of course will be blamed on BP b/c Barry is NEVER wrong
There are more shrimp and trout and snapper right now in the gulf than there ever has been thanks to the fact that we are not being allowed to go out and kill them like we do every year.
Posted on 6/17/10 at 3:11 pm to Decatur
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You do the math.
Never liked math. But Limbaugh thinks it will be OK so I'm not concerned. He keeps me on an even keel.
Posted on 6/17/10 at 3:18 pm to mylsuhat
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which could likely cause a mass fish kill which of course will be blamed on BP b/c Barry is NEVER wrong
On what are you basing that idea?
Posted on 6/17/10 at 3:20 pm to Sasquatch Smash
when an area gets too populated you have proplems
its how nature works
its the same reason they allow you to shoot Doe's during deer season
if there are more game fish than food avaliable then the fish are going to start dying
its how nature works
its the same reason they allow you to shoot Doe's during deer season
if there are more game fish than food avaliable then the fish are going to start dying
Posted on 6/17/10 at 3:21 pm to Sasquatch Smash
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not downplaying this but there is a lot more area in the gulf kind of like covering you head in a garbage bag vs the superdome
This analogy made me laugh quite a bit
Posted on 6/17/10 at 3:26 pm to Decatur
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We're getting the equivalent of this every four days.
You do the math.
I am well aware, I think it's something in the area of 8 times as big as the Valdez by now. As others have said, it's a much larger area than Prince William Sound. Throw in our climate and richer biota, and we're in a different situation. Wetlands naturally filter out toxins, and have evolved to cope with disturbance (fire, hurricanes). Just thinking optimistically.
I am by no means saying there won't be an effect, but I don't think it will be 20+ years worth. And I doubt we've seen any of the fallout that we will see.
Posted on 6/17/10 at 3:31 pm to mylsuhat
I know, it's called carrying capacity. Abundant shrimp is abundant prey which equals well fed predators (trout). Successful predators make more predators the next year. That sort of thing doesn't make an immediate fish kill. There's generally lag time between the ups and downs.
Water quality issues cause immediate fish kills, like lack of oxygen due to algal blooms.
Water quality issues cause immediate fish kills, like lack of oxygen due to algal blooms.
Posted on 6/17/10 at 3:34 pm to Sasquatch Smash
Temp and climate are big mitigating circumstances here. PWS was a rock basin with a very cold temp, but in the GOM esp SLa you have a nutrient rich marshy basin. These 2 factors are the main reason i feel the effects will not be 20 yrs. We have had spills in the Barataria basin and the Terrebonne basin. They weren't this big, but were direct hits. DWH thankfully is not in either estuarry then we would be screwed!
Posted on 6/17/10 at 3:37 pm to cigtyme
Why dont we wait till the ecosystem actually starts being affected before you freak to much. It could save you some stress.
Posted on 6/17/10 at 3:37 pm to cigtyme
Yeah, I hear that. That's what I was saying.
Posted on 6/17/10 at 3:39 pm to genuineLSUtiger
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Limbaugh...keeps me on an even keel.
I heard that guy doing the math and had to change the station. That was some bad radio.
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