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re: obama comment about moratorium...........
Posted on 6/4/10 at 8:33 pm to udtiger
Posted on 6/4/10 at 8:33 pm to udtiger
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What has happened (and is happening) pisses me off too, but I am not letting my emotions force me into dumbassed decisions.
You are letting your need/desire for money make decisions that are not in your best interest - just like a whore does. You are willing to sell the long term health of the world around you for a quick buck. You may as well just bend over and spread some BP sludge on your bunghole and invite the BP shareholders to have a good time.
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Posted on 6/4/10 at 8:35 pm to LSU80 USF08
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LSU80 USF08
Settel down Francis.........this is supposed to be a discussion board for discussion of variing ideas without personnal attack.
People hav ebeen and will continue to be hurt by this.........careers will be destroyed, lives have been lost.
Posted on 6/4/10 at 8:44 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
This will place more people on the Government dole which is the purpose of this Administration.
This post was edited on 6/4/10 at 9:12 pm
Posted on 6/4/10 at 8:50 pm to TJG210
Anyone know how many miles from the US coast does the USA have rights on? Just wondering if these rigs that are over 100 miles from coast could still drill if their boats were running from ports in Mexico? This could be a loop hole.
Posted on 6/4/10 at 8:55 pm to marvin82
FUUUCCKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!
The ignorance has won. I give up.
The ignorance has won. I give up.
Posted on 6/4/10 at 9:56 pm to Mudminnow
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Mudminnow
Your's as well i'm afraid
Posted on 6/4/10 at 9:57 pm to udtiger
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As an American, there is much more immediate and long term consequences for this moratorium than the potential environmental impacts.
This is the greatest line EVER. Seriously, what more do we need to do to the environment to screw it up?
What potential impacts are you talking about...they are not potential, the shite is impacted.
It's shite statements like yours that really concern me. You act like this one incident is not big deal since there are multiple rigs operating safely. If we cannot control this one why should we feel safe with the rest?
Posted on 6/4/10 at 10:06 pm to saltybulldog
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If we cannot control this one why should we feel safe with the rest?
Because the oil companies know exactly what they are doing.
It's those damn hippies that look for things that don't matter...like scientific evidence, testing, results. Bah. Humbug. I say.
Drill, idiot, drill.
Posted on 6/4/10 at 10:09 pm to saltybulldog
I anxiously await your explanation how shutting down GOM drilling is going to stop THIS LEAK!
However, shutting down GOM drilling WILL costs tens (and possibly hundreds) of thousands of jobs and will also result in significant economic repercussions to this state, and this country.
However, shutting down GOM drilling WILL costs tens (and possibly hundreds) of thousands of jobs and will also result in significant economic repercussions to this state, and this country.
Posted on 6/4/10 at 10:13 pm to udtiger
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However, shutting down GOM drilling WILL costs tens (and possibly hundreds) of thousands of jobs and will also result in significant economic repercussions to this state, and this country.
So what? People lose jobs. Get off their lazy arse and get a new one.
But this leak is putting poison into our water, food chain, etc. Read about the illnesses of people exposed to oil that occurred after the Valdez. It's not drill baby drill. It's die baby die.
They haven't figured out how to stop this leak. What if another well goes haywire. Shut the damn things down until we know what's happening.
You think jobs are more important than keeping people healthy?
Money > health
Posted on 6/4/10 at 10:19 pm to tigerpurple84
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Money > health
Money = food, shelter, healthcare. Therefore, money = health.
You don't think money is important? Go without any for a week.
You don't think a stable economy is important? Why don't you ask the people of Greece how great their lives are right now.
You act as if I and others don't give a shite about the environment. No one is saying to fricking forget about trying to stop this leak. No one is saying it does not matter or that it is not important that such drilling be done in the safest manner possible (which, as history has shown, has been the case as this in the first such incident involving a deepwater well). But, again, sutting down drilling will not stop this leak.
Posted on 6/4/10 at 10:22 pm to udtiger
I never said it would stop this leak. But arguing that this moratorium is worse than any "potential environmental impacts" is just stupid. The fact that no other drilling is occuring does a few things, it keeps another leak from happening right now, which would be absolutely shittastic, it also lets everyone know how serious this is...which, based on comments like yours, its obvious how important that is.
Look,I dont want anyone to lose their job...I dont want to pay higher prices for gas, but I cannot help that these dipshits caused this to happen. I also cannot help but assume that all other oil companies are doing this same shite.
This points to a bigger issue, our dependence on oil is going to cause problems, today, tomorrow, and well into the future unless we all do something about it.
Look,I dont want anyone to lose their job...I dont want to pay higher prices for gas, but I cannot help that these dipshits caused this to happen. I also cannot help but assume that all other oil companies are doing this same shite.
This points to a bigger issue, our dependence on oil is going to cause problems, today, tomorrow, and well into the future unless we all do something about it.
Posted on 6/4/10 at 10:24 pm to saltybulldog
everyday BP says we will be trying something never attempted at these depths so it'll be very difficult......yet and people wonder why the 6 months moratorium on deep water drilling 
Posted on 6/4/10 at 10:24 pm to udtiger
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But, again, sutting down drilling will not stop this leak.
And neither will keeping them open.
And maybe, with the wells shut down, it will promote this little thing called free enterprise and emerging markets.
Alternative energy that doesn't cause toxic frigging glop to kill everything that it comes into contact with.
Bc, you know, BP is totally BEYOND PETROLEUM. Or at least that's what they told me.
beyond petroleum
"For a company that claims to have moved 'beyond petroleum,' BP has managed to spill an awful lot of it on to the tundra in Alaska. Last week, after the news was leaked to journalists, it admitted to investors that it is facing criminal charges for allowing 270,000 gallons of crude oil to seep across one of the world's most sensitive habitats. The incident was so serious that some of its staff could be sent to prison.
"Had this been Exxon, the epitome of sneering corporate brutality, the news would have surprised no one. But BP's rebranding, like Shell's, has been so effective that you could be forgiven for believing that it had become an environmental pressure group. These companies have used the vast profits from their petroleum business to create the impression that they are abandoning it."
--Goerge Monbiot, writing in the Guardian, June 13, 2006
Posted on 6/4/10 at 10:28 pm to udtiger
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I anxiously await your explanation how shutting down GOM drilling is going to stop THIS LEAK!
However, shutting down GOM drilling WILL costs tens (and possibly hundreds) of thousands of jobs and will also result in significant economic repercussions to this state, and this country.
If you believe that the reason for pausing of deep water drilling is designed to stop the current leak then you have a severe problem with comprehension and understanding. We need to find out if this incident was caused by a 1 in 10,000 random accident, a 1 in 1000 design flaw, or a 1 in 50 policy of ignoring regulations. In other words - is it a systemic problem that could happen on other wells?
Also, please consider the economic impact of the NEXT leak. How bad is a second hit when you're already down?
Posted on 6/4/10 at 10:32 pm to tigerpurple84
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And maybe, with the wells shut down, it will promote this little thing called free enterprise and emerging markets.
Alternative energy that doesn't cause toxic frigging glop to kill everything that it comes into contact with.
You mean like solar and hybrid/electric cars? Perhaps you should do a little research on just how fricking toxic the batteries that are used in these "green" applications are. Oh, and where to you think the electricity is going to come from to charge up those hybrids? Hydrocarbons (coal or natural gas) or nuclear.
Wind? I'll be real interested to see a car run on wind power (I guess sails could be used).
Water? And here I thought damming up rivers was a big "no no" with environmentalists.
Also, don't forget that oil is not JUST used to make fuels.
Aspalt
Plastics
Tires
as well as a shitload of other products
Maybe the same pixie dust and unicorn farts can be used to make those products as well.
Posted on 6/4/10 at 10:37 pm to saltybulldog
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Look,I dont want anyone to lose their job...I dont want to pay higher prices for gas, but I cannot help that these dipshits caused this to happen. I also cannot help but assume that all other oil companies are doing this same shite.
Does "freak accident" mean anything to you? Had we been able to drill in more advantages areas this could have been stopped in hours with divers. Dipshit turds like you dont like the looks from your beach front property so you and yours have forced drilling into the current depths. Of which, has had a safe,stellar, success rate. What same shite? Gotta a link for info on all of those Chernobyl type deaths from the Valdez? Ive got one that describes the pending consequences of a moratorium?
Posted on 6/4/10 at 10:37 pm to LSU80 USF08
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If you believe that the reason for pausing of deep water drilling is designed to stop the current leak then you have a severe problem with comprehension and understanding. We need to find out if this incident was caused by a 1 in 10,000 random accident, a 1 in 1000 design flaw, or a 1 in 50 policy of ignoring regulations. In other words - is it a systemic problem that could happen on other wells?
I don't.
Again, there's been deepwater oil exploration in the GOM for some time, and this is the FIRST time this has happened. The remaining operating rigs HAVE ALREADY BEEN INSPECTED/REVIEWED in the last 46 days. Also, unless you have not been paying attention, if you shut down the GOM for 6 months (assuming the government sticks to that timetable...because you know they are really on top of getting things done on time), it is not like they will be able to just flip a switch and start back up.
Posted on 6/4/10 at 10:38 pm to udtiger
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Maybe the same pixie dust and unicorn farts can be used to make those products as well.
Look dude, I know you're slow but stay with me on this.
Technology changes.
Know those big arse computers that used to fill up rooms that had maybe 1MB of storage.
I got a phone with 32GB on it, and it's old.
My phone has 32,000 times more memory and fits in my pocket.
So if you want to use the stupid argument that green energy uses batteries that are toxic, wah wah wah, then you are living in the past man.
you'll be run over by people who think they can do better...there will be investors to sink $$$ into R&D and come up with better ways.
Of course, maybe you are using a hand crank to power your computer.
shite changes. Fact.
Posted on 6/4/10 at 10:42 pm to knockers
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Gotta a link for info on all of those Chernobyl type deaths from the Valdez?
So let me ask you.
Are you conservative? Pro-life?
If ONE person dies from corporate negligence, you are ok with it?
I don't give a shite how many people lose their jobs. The can move the hell out of Louisiana and go work in McDonalds in Pittsburg. There are jobs out there.
What's your price for life?
Deaths and Illnesses from Exxon Valdex spill
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