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Posted on 5/28/10 at 8:49 am to mylsuhat
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BP has one thing to worry about
Do you mean to tell me that a team of surgeon's number one priority while performing a risky operation in the ER to save somebody's life isn't providing constant real time information about the extraordinarily complicated procedure that they are performing to news outlets which are mostly incapable of understanding what is actually happening and therefore cannot effectively communicate this information to the general public which is also generally not capable of understanding what is happening either?
I almost forgot; besides the real time updates to the media, incumbent on the surgical team is also making sure the Coast Guard approves any changes to the pre-surgery action plan that they filed.
Posted on 5/28/10 at 8:51 am to JudgeHolden
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Life is not a drive through window. We can't just get what we want when we want it, particularly when it comes to difficult things. This is not God's food court in the mall. There are things we cannot do quickly, and there are things that we cannot do at all. As we watch this, let's let it humble us some, as Americans, as citizens of the world, and as children of God.
As for my wife and I, don't pity us. We live vibrantly, treating every day, every hour as a gift. But we have also learned to live humbly.
That's beautiful and a GREAT way to look at the world. Thoughts and prayers with you and your wife Judge. Thanks for sharing with us.
Posted on 5/28/10 at 8:52 am to reverendotis
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Do you mean to tell me that a team of surgeon's number one priority while performing a risky operation in the ER to save somebody's life isn't providing constant real time information about the extraordinarily complicated procedure that they are performing to news outlets which are mostly incapable of understanding what is actually happening and therefore cannot effectively communicate this information to the general public which is also generally not capable of understanding what is happening either?
I almost forgot; besides the real time updates to the media, incumbent on the surgical team is also making sure the Coast Guard approves any changes to the pre-surgery action plan that they filed.
Posted on 5/28/10 at 8:53 am to Mudminnow
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How is the mud made? Bag and water or any chemicals added in to get the right consistancy?
water based mud is water mixed with many different chemicals to make a drilling mud.
Posted on 5/28/10 at 8:53 am to TigerFred
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3. Stopping the flow of mud at some point and restarting at an undetermined time was part of the original plan.
If that's the case, then why was that not part of the original plan communicated to the public as they described the plan to us initially? Having a 16-hour shutdown in pumping mud, and then not saying anything about it for half a day sure makes it seem like BP is trying to withhold negative information. BP is (rightly) being hammered for not being transparent and for appearing to be willing to put out misinformation (5,000 barrells a day?) or just conceal stuff they don't want us to know. For this reason, I do not believe BP when they tell me the stoppage was planned and things are still on track.
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They are frustrated with what is being reported because the feds are way more involved with information releases than the feds want to admit.
That Doug Suttles guy has had a microphone and a camera in front of him around the clock for the last month and a half. That guy could tell us what's really going on if he wanted to. I do not believe BP's line that the feds are not "letting" them tell the truth.
I hope and pray these buffoons stumble upon a solution, but I am in no way expecting it. I am convinced that in August, we will still be spewing tens of thousands of barrells of crude into the gulf before we finally get a relief well drilled to stop the catastrophe. By that time, everything touching that body of water from the Yucatan to the Florida Keys will be devastated. And chances are, it will work its way around Florida and up the east coast as well. And all BP will care about is "protecting its brand."
Posted on 5/28/10 at 8:54 am to mylsuhat
Keeping the public informed with truthful information is something BP has screwed up with from the start. The people have the RIGHT to know what the hell is going on. It is BP's FAULT that the public is getting faulty information.
Posted on 5/28/10 at 8:55 am to BenHOGan
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willing to put out misinformation (5,000 barrells a day?)
dude they made an estimate, what more do u want from them
no one could tell what was flowning but from what they knew this was a good guess
stop crucifing them for this
Posted on 5/28/10 at 8:55 am to reverendotis
Hospitals, like all big companies, have PR people to provide good information. You know, so the "surgeons" don't have to.
It is in their interest to do so, to counter any misinformation.
Your analogy is terrible.
It is in their interest to do so, to counter any misinformation.
Your analogy is terrible.
Posted on 5/28/10 at 8:56 am to mylsuhat
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BP has one thing to worry about, they do not need to concern themselved with doing inteviews for the media and getting w/ lawyers and PR people to keep updating you
Probably should make sure Doug Suttles gets this memo. I can't turn on my television without having this smug a-hole spinning this thing BP's way.
Posted on 5/28/10 at 8:56 am to RedHawk
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It is BP's FAULT that the public is getting faulty information.
maybe, but when they inform the media and they are too ignorant to understand it then report it wrong is that BP's fault? no
Posted on 5/28/10 at 8:57 am to mylsuhat
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but from what they knew this was a good guess
Posted on 5/28/10 at 8:58 am to mylsuhat
oh poor BP....are you fooking kidding me? 
Posted on 5/28/10 at 8:59 am to mylsuhat
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dude they made an estimate, what more do u want from them
no one could tell what was flowning but from what they knew this was a good guess
stop crucifing them for this
I will continue to crucify them. First they said 1,000 and then 5,000 barrels a day and now EXPERTS are saying at least 10,000 barrels a day. How was the first guess even remotely close to what the actual leak is. Don't you think BP had some sort of estimate of how much oil was going to be coming up before the explosion.
Posted on 5/28/10 at 9:02 am to RedHawk
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Don't you think BP had some sort of estimate of how much oil was going to be coming up before the explosion.
yeah they did, but they knew all the peramaters then.
they didnt know what restrictions theyre working with after the rig fell and all that
it changes everything
Posted on 5/28/10 at 9:02 am to mylsuhat
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dude they made an estimate, what more do u want from them
They made an "estimate" that was quickly and very easily refuted by dozens of experts, yet they continued to insist for 5 weeks that their "estimate" was correct. It's not as though they didn't have access to all the data regarding the size of the pipe and the rate at which the oil was coming out. They had that data and knew the rate was more, but they chose to keep repeating the 5,000 a day number. It indicates a pattern of deceit with these people.
Posted on 5/28/10 at 9:02 am to LSU Wayne
Stupid quershtian for anyone that knows: How do they send junk one way to try to plug the holes in the riser, without also sending junk down the well hole thingy the other direction and risk impeding the mud going that direction?
Or does it matter cause clogged is clogged?
Or does it matter cause clogged is clogged?
Posted on 5/28/10 at 9:02 am to RedHawk
Status? Updates? Thanks in advance!
Posted on 5/28/10 at 9:05 am to RedHawk
Are those white particles floating around the hydrate crystals that plugged up the cofferdam?
Posted on 5/28/10 at 9:05 am to wilceaux
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PR people to provide good information
The surgery is going good - the surgery is going not so good. That's the kind of information that we should reasonably expect. Not "which artery is clamped and which isn't", "precisely how much blood has been given so far", etc.
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so the "surgeons" don't have to.
Unless the PR people have complete technical understanding of the procedure, the surgeons have to devote some of their attention to updating the PR people instead of focusing 100% on the operation.
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to counter any misinformation.
The internet killed "countering misinformation"
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Your analogy is terrible.
I stand by it.
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