re: A Louisiana woman tells it like it really is!!

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omegaman. You care more about BP than the people of this state and this region. frick you, you fricking frick and your lack of values and empathy.

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No I care about the TRUTH,

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Which is???


Out of curiosity - what line of work are you in?



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I think the only people truly benefiting from the oil spill are the posters on the Recruiting Board. About 95% of your posts have been here since this thing started...

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Which is? you ask... What has really happened, what is really happening.

My line of work. Three sources of income. An evil oil company but not BP. I also have two other sources of income outside of that and both are in the hunting and fishing arena.

Football season is over, so unfortunately for everyone apparently, I will return to the rant and the recruiting board when something important is going on.

But none of that changes the fact that the woman was bitching that they were required to be trained on safety equipment that they hopefully will not need... but might be.

Thanks for the honesty.


It's no secret that individual experience results in opinion. Without context, it's not easy to determine how "in the know" somebody is. With the amount of information (and disinformation) on the internet, an obsessive loony who minds their spelling and grammar can easily appear as expert as an "expert" on a message board.

It's encouraging to know that you work in the industry (which, for the record, I do not think of as evil) - It means that I can trust that you believe what you know to be true. I will concede that there are far more conspiracy theories out there than there are conspiracies. But if even 25% of the BS that appears to be going on is actually going on... It's no less disgusting.


I hope that your employer is one of many who are doing things right... Not just by the numbers and the baseline standards required for safety (for workers and the environment). If this is the case - Your self-righteous tone is justified as you are protecting your industry and way of life.

In contrast, I think it would be fair to say that it's quite possible the standards your employer has demonstrated and you have come to know as industry-wide... may be undermining your ability to see that what's going on with BP right now. Enron and Tyco weren't the first and won't be the last to get exposed in due time... And they employed thousands of good, hard-working people who had no idea what they were helping to facilitate.

I would urge you to look at all the information available right now - and treat it like a medical condition.

BP has cancer (making it "cancerous" by definition). Let's say it has skin cancer, specifically.. A malignancy which, although isolated and hidden from public view at the moment, is no less malignant - and is a good indicator that far worse may exist internally. Unchecked, this cancer will eventually affect the entire "body" of your industry.

Right now... it seems to me... You wouldn't be constantly defending BP against EVERY slight unless you either knew or were concerned that there was a chink in their armor which could potentially affect you down the line. Your slant on "all things oil" has taken up residence in "The industry man doth protest too much, methinks" territory.

I'm not going to try to convince you of anything, but I will ask that you keep your mind open to the possibility that BP is a traitor in your midst...

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omegaman. You care more about BP than the people of this state and this region. frick you, you fricking frick and your lack of values and empathy.

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I RA'd.

There probably is someone out of the thousands of BP employees who screwed up somewhere and wants to spin the truth. That's true in any organization of that size at any point in time, whether there's an emergency or not. This does not mean it is fair to paint all BP employees with the same brush.

There are several BP employees that screwed the pooch on this deal and that is why we are where are. I agree, is not good to paint with a broad brush, hell Dudley and McKay are Ms boys, I get it. This whole deal is a cluster frick of monumental proportions and BP and the Fed are not telling us everything and they are not doing what is needed to prevent pollution on our shores and marshes. Like I said "BP can kiss my rebel arse"

yurintroubl thanks for the great reply. I did not expect that.

Just a little information. My livelyhood is in no way threatened by this. I work way down steam in the process. I make plastics from the gas. Not in the drilling business by a long shot.

I do not like injustice. Everything I post I try to back up with facts. I haven't watched the news much the last couple of weeks but before that it was impossible to watch the news on TV because they were getting stuff wrong ever couple of minutes. Sometimes seemingly important stuff and sometimes things that were important and they were basically feeding the public lies. I will give a few examples if you like.

As far as taking up for BP that is not my mindset at all really and that is not what I am even trying to do. BP caused this mess. BP caused this mess not because of some unfortunate equipment failures either. BP caused this out of making poor decisions that are criminal in a couple of cases or are at least close to bordering on being criminal.

Where I have defended bp in a sense is when I see people make statements that I believe or not true. Such as BP doesn't want to shut off the oil so they can make money off of it. This is rediculous because the long they keep it flowing the closer they get to bankruptcy. And they actually aren't even going to keep the money the make from the collected oil. They are donating it to the NFWF (I hope I got the acronym right).

The reason I believe it looks like I am a BP supporter so much is that there is a lot more inforation being posted that is incorrect that goes against BP than infavor of BP.

People say stuff like if they wanted it stopped why didn't they do this earlier. When in fact the device wasn't even built at that time.

There are two sides to every coin. And too often people hear one side and don't consider the other. I try to be objective.

Point out were I am wrong where it can be substantiated with facts and I will concede the point. Truely the only agenda I have is the truth.

The charter boat captain that committed suicide did so because he thought the gulf was dead. The fish have been largly unimpacted by the oil so far. They are even cruising the oil slicks lines that form as they do the rips they follow offshore.

I believe that he MIGHT have figured his way of life was over in part because of the media hyping the oil spill as doomsday. I am glad I am not part of that problem which might have been partially responsible for what he was thinking when he decided to end his life.

The hotels in Florida were getting hammered (reportedly anyway) by people canceling their vacations because they thought the beaches were covered in oil long before the oil ever arrived. And now that it has it is still not a forgone conclusion that it will still be oiled in a week or two. Beaches are realatively easy to clean up.

Charter boat captains are loosing business even in areas open for business because people are either afraid to eat the fish are they are thinking the oil has the area closed and everything is dead. The samples of the seafood in all the open area has been found to be safe. None of the tissue samples in the open areas has been shown to be contaminated. But does the media ever even report this? No.

I just want the truth out that is all.

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I just want the truth out that is all.

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This. Thanks.

Im not sayn anything against what she is going thru, but the part about the respirator's, i know as a HR guy for for a large Maint. Construction company in South LA. We've had to ,for years now send people to be trained on and to also receive what's called a Pulmonary function test to qualify them for a respirator. Some people ,because of lung capacity can't wear them safely. But i will say she does have a right to be pisses and i thank God my family and i aren't having to deal with living in the middle of where these poor souls do. God Bless them.

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She doesn't think they are baseless. I guess if you really want to look for a reason to discredit victims you can. If something gets overblown a little about BP, so what. If not enough of a ruckus is raised and people like her don't get the help they need that is a true tragedy. I just can't understand why the passion for protecting a companies reputation is stronger than the concern for the people affected by them.

I don't think anyone means screw the janitor, deck hand, accountant, etc. I think that is being a little overly sensitive and for what purpose and agenda I have no idea. But if you don't hold them accountable, it's screw Louisiana and it's people.