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re: YT Video: We're Not Ready for Superintelligence
Posted on 10/21/25 at 8:56 pm to BoogaBear
Posted on 10/21/25 at 8:56 pm to BoogaBear
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I have new employees that are embracing AI and cranking out insane amounts of work with 0 understanding of how to do anything but prompt AI.
Is the work any good? Comparable to a new employee who doesn’t use AI?
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Posted on 10/21/25 at 8:56 pm to JohnnyKilroy
If these a$$holes know it could kill us, then why are they feeding this beast.
Confession: I didn't listen to it all.
Confession: I didn't listen to it all.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 9:01 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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work any good? Comparable to a new employee who doesn’t use AI?
That's the kicker. New employees that don't really know the business or how to code well, it's just garbage generated by AI, think faster Google search.
The few that understand the business and know how to code are absolute code studs with AI.
ETA: if it eliminates jobs it's going to be the low level folks as it always would have been.
This post was edited on 10/21/25 at 9:02 pm
Posted on 10/21/25 at 9:01 pm to F1y0n7h3W4LL
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If these a$$holes know it could kill us, then why are they feeding this beast.
Because our biggest geopolitical adversary is also feeding the beast and we don’t want the beast to have a preference or allegiance to them instead of us.
It’s quite the conundrum. On one hand, losing the AI race to china flips the world balance of power on its head, but beating china in the AI race may very well be a pyrrhic victory, as the AI powerful enough to “beat” china very likely just kills us shortly thereafter anyway.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 9:05 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Posted on 10/21/25 at 10:12 pm to JohnnyKilroy
There’s no future with 70-90% of the country on UBI that doesn’t include chaos and becoming a massive shithole. Imagine the summer of 2020 in perpetuity
Posted on 10/21/25 at 10:19 pm to NIH
Yea it's probably gonna suck arse for almost everyone.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 8:47 am to CollegeFBRules
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And still, to this day, not a single cocksucker in Silicon Valley can come up with anything better than UBI for the people they’re going to run out of the workforce in the coming years.
Maybe initially, but that's an eventual dead end as the number of takers would far exceed the number of makers. The cost of UBI would eventually eclipse the amount of money available to be taxed, thus crashing the system.
The idea behind the push to AGI seems to be for that system to be able to create a post-scarcity society. One where AGI and robotics have become so advanced as to provide humans with anything/everything they want (we'll put aside the possibility of Skynet for now). Reaching a self-perpetuating AGI system which provides all things (clothing, shelter, food, entertainment, etc) would mean there's no need for a UBI as money would be essentially useless. Who need to buy something when demand can be met by an essentially endless supply created by a self-perpetuating system (read: self-building, self-repairing)?
If we don't get the Terminator dystopia, this would be the alternative wouldn't be much better. The Universe 25 experiments showed what happens when all needs are met for too long over generations. While we have far more awareness than the rats of those experiments, we would still eventually go down some version of that path (society largely becoming hyper-focused on grooming/beauty, for example).
Posted on 10/22/25 at 9:41 am to JohnnyKilroy
I am nervous on AI. They are nuclear bombs that can think for themselves. RealPolitik is going to drive the AI boom at some point behind the scenes. I'm fully convinced half the reason all these AIs are free is so the government can use us as test subjects to mass create data points.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 9:45 am to Jake88
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Then where does the money come from if there are few taxable workers?
Its a utopian dream. Tax AI companies enough to support the population. The "support" will be menial and very limiting for most folks. Utopians like Altman have no clue what its like for the average person.
Utopian dreams always seem to forget human nature. We dont have the tolerance for this.
This post was edited on 10/22/25 at 9:46 am
Posted on 10/22/25 at 9:50 am to JohnnyKilroy
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Is the work any good? Comparable to a new employee who doesn’t use AI?
In the short term, yes. Problem I have seen is they don't have the ability to build on it, so they hit a wall pretty quickly and get stuck, all while being given harder work because they "picked it up quickly". Zero decision making skills usually, and it's painfully obvious large portions of AI is just repackaged reddit.
Truly scary thing in my industry is how many people are asking AI to spit out opinions on legal documents such as limited partnership agreements. It's comically wrong at times, but why use AI if you are just going to double check anyways? I'm a shitty boss for people that abuse AI though because I want to know why choices were made as much as the choices being made by my employees. If you make the right decision for an idiotic reason or make the wrong decision for a good reason, these things matter. It allows me to coach up.
This post was edited on 10/22/25 at 9:54 am
Posted on 10/22/25 at 10:01 am to JohnnyKilroy
You’ve painted quite an interesting, if somewhat bleak, picture of the future, JK.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 10:29 am to JohnnyKilroy
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At the end of the day, you can say “who will have money to buy the products?” But tell me which group of shareholders will go along with spending money on human labor while the competition increases their margin while undercutting on price and producing a “better” product?
And this essentially is where capitalism stops working as an economic model.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 10:37 am to Klark Kent
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You’ve painted quite an interesting, if somewhat bleak, picture of the future, JK.
I mean I hope none of this shite happens and AGI is really the pipe dream that never truly comes to fruition. Seems like the BEST case realistic scenario for AGI is pretty shitty for nearly everyone, at least in the short term.
MAYBE we get to the abundance/post-scarcity society utopian bullshite at some point, but there will probably be a period of intense pain like never before that precedes that. Like going from ~4% unemployment to 80% unemployment in a year or two. If such a "post-scarcity" society is even possible, do we survive the transition period where our whole societal structure is essentially destroyed nearly overnight? Seems unlikely.
Just seems like the odds that it turns out the way Altman etc hope it does are pretty damn low.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 11:10 am to JohnnyKilroy
Agreed. Even if AGI somehow leads us to a post-scarcity utopian paradise, the road to get there looks more like a demolition derby than a smooth evolution. I just don’t see how we avoid mass chaos in the middle/transition.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:12 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Sam Altman should be thrown in prison for life cause of his transhumanist bullshite. Can't stand him and all of silicon valley.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:15 pm to AmishSamurai
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Work in AI. We're decades away from AGI and having to call on Sarah Conner to save us.
Oh good.my kids will have ti deal with it. Sorry kids.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 11:08 am to JohnnyKilroy
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A large element of their future predictions hinges on AI being “too big to fail” with the gov sort of soft nationalizing these AI companies.
These AI companies are open to that arrangement, as it clears all sorts of red tape for them while making it essentially impossible for anyone who comes after to compete.
And there it is:
OpenAI CFO says we need a federal backstop on AI financing; AI is a national security issue that the government needs to insure.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 11:10 am to JohnnyKilroy
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What else is possible if 90+% of the workforce is no longer needed or wanted?
What has happened in the past when 90% of the workforce is no longer needed.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 11:12 am to bad93ex
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What has happened in the past when 90% of the workforce is no longer needed.
Don't think that's ever happened before so idk.
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