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re: Youth softball team pulled from ESPN2 televised champ game

Posted on 8/6/17 at 11:14 am to
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
50039 posts
Posted on 8/6/17 at 11:14 am to
quote:

I think an unjust punishment on so many future lesbians is akin to a hate crime




I know their are a lot of lesbians in softball but I have known quite a few softball players and only one was a lesbian.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 8/6/17 at 11:15 am to
quote:

If my son post stupid shite like this publicly, missing the game is just step 1 in his punishment


As a parent, I would hope so.

To punish the whole team, frick no.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
159059 posts
Posted on 8/6/17 at 11:18 am to
quote:

Sportsmanship should be encouraged
SPORTSPERSONSHIP
Posted by TGHub
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2008
2262 posts
Posted on 8/6/17 at 11:20 am to
The players in the picture flipping off the camera should be suspended by the coach. The rest of the team should have been allowed to play the game.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112587 posts
Posted on 8/6/17 at 11:20 am to
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To punish the whole team, frick no.
even better lesson for all invlolved. That is how the real world works. Your actions have a direct impact on others

And for the kids they did nothing wrong, those you surround yourself with project onto you

I love it from the tournament committee
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
38334 posts
Posted on 8/6/17 at 11:26 am to
Here is an updated article about the situation.

Richmond Times, Sunday Morning

At first, I was in agreement with forcing the team to forfeit, but now I think that was a little harsh due to some things I took away from the article.

quote:

Atlee manager Scott Currie said after the post was called to his attention, it was deleted immediately. He arranged for his team to deliver an apology in person that night to the Kirkland players. He said after the apologies, a Kirkland coach lauded the effort.


So the coach took the necessary measures immediately to make the situation right. I think for a group of 12-15 year old girls, this is an appropriate way to handle the situation.

quote:

Atlee coach Chris Mardigian said the issue was retaliation against some members of the host team who had treated the Atlee girls with less-than-ideal hospitality.


Unfortunately it is often the one who retaliates who gets caught.

quote:

Friday's game ended in a double play shortly after a baserunner from the Kirkland team was ejected for stealing signals from the Atlee team while on second base and relaying them to the batter. A Kirkland coach was ejected as well.


WTF? It's against the rules to steal signs? That's part of the game. Seems silly.

Anyways, in summary, I now think the penalty was a bit harsh since the coach got out in front of this immediately and had his kids apologize. And I think those girls learned a valuable lesson about the evils of social media that they can use for the rest of their lives.



Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 8/6/17 at 11:28 am to
quote:

even better lesson for all invlolved.


The innocent kids weren't involved.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 8/6/17 at 11:29 am to

quote:

So the coach took the necessary measures immediately to make the situation right. I think for a group of 12-15 year old girls, this is an appropriate way to handle the situation.


For normal, rational people...yes.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
93541 posts
Posted on 8/6/17 at 11:29 am to
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It's against the rules to steal signs?

especially in the high stakes arena of 12-14 years old girls softball!!!
This post was edited on 8/6/17 at 11:31 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112587 posts
Posted on 8/6/17 at 11:31 am to
quote:

quote:
even better lesson for all invlolved.


The innocent kids weren't involved.

Thats the real world. The circle you run in effects you

Great lesson for them. It's harsh, but at the end of the day it is a softball game that means absolutely nothing, but it will def teach all the girls a lasting lesson
Posted by BuyloSellhi
The South
Member since May 2017
723 posts
Posted on 8/6/17 at 11:32 am to
Let the parents take care of the punishment.

Oh - forgot ESPN is owned by ABC.

SJW mentality en masse.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 8/6/17 at 11:34 am to
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Thats the real world. The circle you run in effects you


This wasn't a social circle. It was a team.

Rational thing to do is punish the kids who fricked up.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
93541 posts
Posted on 8/6/17 at 11:34 am to
quote:

affects you

Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112587 posts
Posted on 8/6/17 at 11:34 am to
quote:

Let the parents take care of the punishment.

Oh - forgot ESPN is owned by ABC.

SJW mentality en masse.
Wait what?

Now it's SJW to punish kids for being dumbasses and making shot public? That is literally a 180 from the normal argument
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112587 posts
Posted on 8/6/17 at 11:35 am to
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Rational thing to do is punish the kids who fricked up.


So I am going to shift gears, you think ole
Miss shouldn't be punished correct?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 8/6/17 at 11:37 am to
quote:

So I am going to shift gears, you think ole
Miss shouldn't be punished correct?


Totally different scenario. Ole Miss cheated to gain a competitive advantage.

But the kids should be allowed to play games, compete, and play in bowl games.
This post was edited on 8/6/17 at 11:38 am
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
93541 posts
Posted on 8/6/17 at 11:37 am to
quote:

Ole Miss cheated to gain a competitive advantage.



they need to learn how to cheat better
Posted by YipSkiddlyDooo
Member since Apr 2013
3822 posts
Posted on 8/6/17 at 11:39 am to
quote:

Kap said a lot of stupid shite and he was never suspended because of it.


No he was just "let go" (49'ers publicly say they would have cut him had he not opted out), and is out millions of dollars because nobody else in the business will hire him. And it has nothing to do with talent...Case Keenum and Brandon Weeden have contracts

And Kap didn't even break any rules. These girls actually did.

In the broad sense of "public forms of expression can have consequences," these two instances are similar.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 8/6/17 at 11:39 am to



True.

But the dirty truth is Ole Miss didn't do what anyone else isn't doing. They just were amateurs at doing it.
Posted by TGHub
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2008
2262 posts
Posted on 8/6/17 at 11:41 am to
The whole team would be punished by suspending the players. They wouldn't be at full strength in the championship game.

This teaches the whole team a lesson without directly punishing the innocent players.
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