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re: You be the judge: Kickboxing champ/MMA fighter knocks out man at bar: claims self defense

Posted on 6/29/21 at 12:59 pm to
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
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Posted on 6/29/21 at 12:59 pm to
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Come on, man.



if schilling had shoved that guy he would have sent him thru the window. he put his right hand on the guys shoulder and nudged him out of the way. I think that is an acceptable move if a guy backs into you like what happened.
This post was edited on 6/29/21 at 1:00 pm
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
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Posted on 6/29/21 at 12:59 pm to
What's clear in the video is

1. Fighter is likely fricked and certainly an idiot and a piece of shite.

2. Drunk dude 100% made an aggressive move at the guy right before getting hit. Anyone saying they don't see that has to be lying.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 6/29/21 at 1:01 pm to
Nothing is going to happen to him. Justified KO.
This post was edited on 6/29/21 at 1:02 pm
Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/29/21 at 1:02 pm to
Nope, not self-defense. Dude is big time screwed
Posted by Buzzed
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Posted on 6/29/21 at 1:02 pm to
Zoom in close and watch. The little guy definitely put his hands on and then bowed at the fighter. Pretty much everyone here would have responded similarly.

Pretty fricking stupid the fighter responded like that though. Not sure there’s ever an excuse for an elite fighter to ever put their hands on a random stranger unless it is truly a life and death situation.

Fighter could have easily taken one on the chin first, then he’d be somewhat justified, but probably still in a shitload of trouble.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 6/29/21 at 1:03 pm to
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Drunk dude 100% made an aggressive move at the guy right before getting hit. Anyone saying they don't see that has to be lying.


I'm not lying. He may have. It's also possible he was continuing his stupid drunk hip-hop routine. If so, sure, he was taunting Schilling, but good luck justifying assault based on this. Could also be why Schilling used the stupid "hard 'R'" justification, since our stupid society seems to be moving to the usage of that word as justification for assault.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 6/29/21 at 1:03 pm to
I honestly have no idea what you're talking about.

Correct, he wasn't bothering him. He was like dancing and being an idiot by himself more or less. The MMA guy engaged him TWICE before the drunk guy did anything physical unless I'm missing something.

I also think it's convenient someone was filming the drunk guy and him walking back from the bathroom. I don't put it past a guy who fabricates stories about racism to concoct this incident in order to knock out a drunk who was annoying him and his pals.
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 6/29/21 at 1:04 pm to
OK, possibly fricked. But definitely stupid, a liar, and a douchebag.

Drunk dude seems like a mega douche too. Lots of interactions between douchebags every day.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 6/29/21 at 1:04 pm to
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Hope he gets sued and barred from any MMA fighting.


This. I especially hate how he is playing the victim and race cards.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 6/29/21 at 1:05 pm to
Clearly not self defense.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59752 posts
Posted on 6/29/21 at 1:05 pm to
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The little guy definitely put his hands on and then bowed at the fighter.


Did he?
Posted by 225bred
COYS
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 6/29/21 at 1:06 pm to
Lol if anything that fight was extremely close and Colby fought 4 rounds with a broken jaw, dude is as tough as it gets. But continue on with your fantasy
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11713 posts
Posted on 6/29/21 at 1:06 pm to
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2. Drunk dude 100% made an aggressive move at the guy right before getting hit. Anyone saying they don't see that has to be lying.


Is there another video? MMA guy is blocking view of exactly what happened in video I saw. He could have just been flipping guy off for all we know.
Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
38958 posts
Posted on 6/29/21 at 1:06 pm to
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people like Joe Rogan like to claim that guys who are trained fighters are the nicest people and less likely to do anything violent because they don’t have the insecurities that lead people into fights…


I’ve been in martial arts for 30 years. For the most part that’s true. But there are a few, predominantly mma fighters, that play the role of Billy Joe Badass big time. These folks usually have shitty mma records and try to compensate by picking on those they know they can beat.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
65900 posts
Posted on 6/29/21 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

He may have


No, he definitely made a "what bitch" move at him. We don't need to argue. It's extremely clear and obvious. Maybe for you it's one of those optical illusions where some people can see what is clear and some people can't.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
46004 posts
Posted on 6/29/21 at 1:07 pm to
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Correct, he wasn't bothering him. He was like dancing and being an idiot by himself more or less. The MMA guy engaged him TWICE before the drunk guy did anything physical unless I'm missing something.


thats dumb. the guy ran into schilling then said something to make schilling turn around and then was in the process of throwing a punch at him. people are being stupid its not like schilling just walked up and knocked the guy out.

Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 6/29/21 at 1:07 pm to
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I'm not lying. He may have. It's also possible he was continuing his stupid drunk hip-hop routine. If so, sure, he was taunting Schilling, but good luck justifying assault based on this. Could also be why Schilling used the stupid "hard 'R'" justification, since our stupid society seems to be moving to the usage of that word as justification for assault.



The ridiculously contrived racism story makes it obvious Schilling knows he was in the wrong. If it was a real barfight where someone got aggressive with you first, nobody goes home and concocts that load of shite.

It's the same as that Cajun navy girl talking about how two black dudes told her they don't want them helping the black community while assaulting her - this shite does not happen. Too much detail about culturally relevant stuff in crime accounts are dead giveaways of complete bullshite.

Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
46004 posts
Posted on 6/29/21 at 1:08 pm to
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Lol if anything that fight was extremely close and Colby fought 4 rounds with a broken jaw, dude is as tough as it gets. But continue on with your fantasy


that pic he posted isnt colby's jaw anyway.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 6/29/21 at 1:09 pm to
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But there are a few, predominantly mma fighters, that play the role of Billy Joe Badass big time. These folks usually have shitty mma records and try to compensate by picking on those they know they can beat.


Earlier in the thread was a post showing this guy being dropped like a stone.

Adds up.
Posted by GRTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
65900 posts
Posted on 6/29/21 at 1:11 pm to
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engaged him TWICE


The first "engagement" is an extremely common interaction in a bar. The fighter was walking and the drunk stumbled into the walkway. The fighter just pushed past him like we've all done in a crowded bar.

Your last post about the fighter setting this all up with the camera is fricking insane. The drunk was clearly being obnoxious and stupid for a while, so how is the simplest explanation simply not that a random patron was filming a random a-hole?

fricking OT has to dip a toe in the conspiracy realm every single time.
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