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re: WWTOTD - Irate T-ball Coach ** Update OP**

Posted on 5/21/14 at 9:59 am to
Posted by MSG
B.R.
Member since Dec 2007
11263 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 9:59 am to
We have two 4 year olds, a few 5's, and the rest 6 year olds. We've been doing this since last year. I guarantee we could beat 90 percent of any coaches pitch teams. It's crazy, we have a bunch of great kids. Our first baseman is a wall.
Posted by mkibod1
South of the Donna Dixon Line
Member since Jan 2011
4746 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 10:03 am to
Wait, so a trashy a-hole named his team the Rajun Cajuns? Oh the irony...

But slash his tires, piss in his gas tank, and move along.
Posted by SpqrTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2004
9617 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 10:14 am to
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public shaming would likely do this guy some good. get some of his antics on video


Fr33manator is right on target with this one.

Start going to this dude's games and catch a few moments of insanity on video... then send it to the league commissioner, then send it to the principal of the school where he coaches, then, upload to Facebook, Youtube, etc., if nothing is done about it.

Two more things:

I know you trust your wife, but women distort what happens on a sports field A LOT, especially when it concerns their children.

Lastly, don't pull your kid off his team and out of the league. Here's why: first, it hurts him, his coach and his team. That's not right, man. Also, don't let this obnoxious guy win. His attitude is that he wants to intimidate you until you quit. Guess what... he made you quit. He's still there, and you aren't. Lastly, when you quit the league, you lose all stake with the commissioner and the league itself. Why should they change anything? You're a complainer who is now gone... and they don't have to worry about you anymore. As soon as you give up your stake in something, you lose all credibility. If you're going to fight, fight. You can't fight when you're off the battlefield.

I don't want to criticize you too bad because your heart is in the right place and I want you to win here. But just realize you're really not going about it the right way. Step back and look at it again.
Posted by LSU0812
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2013
728 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 10:21 am to
Email wasn't a good idea. This guy, if he is the way you're presenting, won't care that you sent an email. He'll actually use the email as a way to attack you.

You have to confront bullies, no matter how old they are, in person. By confronting him in person, you don't allow him to have time to think up negative things to say to you AND you have the opportunity to belittle him. The goal is to belittle his intelligence in front of everyone. I assure you that will change his attitude.

- Former nerd who is now my bullies' (plural) boss
Posted by notslim99
City of Bossier City
Member since Feb 2005
4549 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 10:21 am to
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Wait until you can get out there and actually talk to him man to man.


I was at work, so I couldn't address him face to face like I wanted.

Update: He emailed back and asked me to call him. I'm actually interested to see how he justifies his actions.
Posted by Mear
Member since Oct 2010
4843 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 10:24 am to
3 o'clock at the flag pole

Man up
Posted by LSU0812
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2013
728 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 10:26 am to
I'm betting that he calls you inappropriate names and uses profanity.

Or that he sarcastically makes you think you've actually changed him then makes fun of you later in front of others.

Would love an update on if I'm correct.
Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
25343 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 10:30 am to
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Nah man you can't do that. Hotheads have been around the park since Admiral Doubleday's day. You just got to shake the guy off. If it was that bad you can contact the league head, but never, ever use your wife or any woman as your credible witness in a sporting situation and never, ever let your kid quit in the middle of anything.




words of wisdom.


Sadly OP now has a son and an wife that think it is okay to walk away from his team when they get their feelings hurt indirectly.

What the other coach did was over the top. I have coached several teams at this age and the competitive spirit can get the best of all of us. But the players, on both teams, come first. You have to always be supportive of the players and direct any comments at the coaches or officials.


Posted by drhuggybear
Member since Mar 2009
339 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 10:33 am to
I am sure at this point the OP has moved on because he is taking more of a beating than the "coach." As most have said on here ANY email ... and I wouldn't have sent the one the OP did ... should be sent to the league and not the coach. It is the leagues responsibility for discipline not some random parent.

I coached my daughters U5 soccer team and we played a couple coaches like the one described. Taking the game way to seriously, etc. For those that are unfamiliar with U5 soccer. Tiny field, 3 players, no goalies, coach on the field just guiding the three players. Leading up to a game where we would be playing one of "those" coaches. This guy was known to have one kid stand in front of the goal. In the week before the game a couple of our parents were already yea-yeaing about it in email. I sent an email to all of them that said that any grievances with the other coach are mine to handle. No one was to comment or act out of turn because we are the examples that our kids will emulate not him. I think I put something in there about using him as a "this is not how you act" example as well :).

As the game kicked off this coach was doing just as I had been told - leaving one child at the back and standing in the goal. During one of the mandatory breaks I just quietly said to the other coach "I case you missed rules, the kids are here to play. The girl at the back might have more fun if she actually got to play instead of hanging at the back all the time. Last I checked she signed up to play and not to watch." Then I walked away. No argument. Just a statement. He just kind of looked at me shocked but he pulled her from the goal.

Basically these guys are just bullies that are trying to live out the glory days that they never had through their kids.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
175464 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 10:33 am to
Why didn't a mother just beat his arse?
Posted by drhuggybear
Member since Mar 2009
339 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 10:35 am to
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Why didn't a mother just beat his arse?


Thats part of why I stopped coaching ... the moms scared the hell out of me
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
175464 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 10:36 am to
quote:


Thats part of why I stopped coaching ... the moms scared the hell out of me



Don't mess with little kid's mothers. My wife will shirly beat the ever living frick out of a coach who would have said such things while her child is hurt.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40172 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 10:36 am to
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select t ball league


It's T-Ball. Select T-Ball leagues are a big part of the problem. Let the kids be kids, let them run around and learn the game. There is plenty of time to get serious when they turn 9.

I did a lot of umpiring in college, and I did some t-ball leagues. There are definetly a few of the coaches (and more than a few of the parents) out there who need a reality check. Yelling at the kids, yelling at the umps, etc.

My daughter last year played in a four year old t-ball league. It was all girls, but they played with a baseball. No score was kept, no outs were kept, each team batted 7 girls per inning. It was an 8 game league, by the time of the last game, each girl was routinely hitting the ball at least to the basepaths, and we had three put-outs (two grounders to first and a tag between second and third). We had a ton of fun. I coached my daughter's team.

This year, I decided not to coach due to some work/travel obligations that caused me to miss the first couple of weeks of practice. She is in a 5-6 year old coach pitch softball league. They do keep score, three strikes, etc. 5 run rule per inning. The only thing our coach cares about is winning. Unfortunetly, she doesn't desire / doesn't know how to teach fundamentals. She has no idea how to teach a swing, throw a ball, etc. She just goes out there and pitches to them. Thus... the girls almost always can't hit. I've tried to helo my daughter before and after practice, but, I don't want to step out there and embarrass the coach. I've talked to her outside practice and offered my assistance if she needs help, which she declined.

And to get back on point... if I were coaching that team and another coach acted that way towards one of my players, the coach would have had me to deal with. I also don't understand why your wife pulled your kid out of the game. Didn't that cause a big scene? Let the kid finish the game, then deal with the issue after. Honestly... the kid might not have even realized what was happening.
Posted by Pectus
Internet
Member since Apr 2010
67302 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 10:43 am to
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Update: He emailed back and asked me to call him. I'm actually interested to see how he justifies his actions.



Oh shite, dude. He must have found this thread. You're screwed!
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
71871 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 10:48 am to
quote:

I coached my daughters U5 soccer team and we played a couple coaches like the one described. Taking the game way to seriously, etc. For those that are unfamiliar with U5 soccer. Tiny field, 3 players, no goalies, coach on the field just guiding the three players. Leading up to a game where we would be playing one of "those" coaches. This guy was known to have one kid stand in front of the goal. In the week before the game a couple of our parents were already yea-yeaing about it in email. I sent an email to all of them that said that any grievances with the other coach are mine to handle. No one was to comment or act out of turn because we are the examples that our kids will emulate not him. I think I put something in there about using him as a "this is not how you act" example as well :).


I remember coaching my son's U8 soccer team which was the exact same except we had 5 (I think that's the number) kids on the field and the field was a little bigger than U5. We were still out there on the field with them with our main concern being to watch for any kid falling down and accidentally getting kicked in the head or something. Still had no goalie or anything.

One day during a game I see a dude run onto the field and he comes up to me literally shaking he was so mad. He goes on to accuse me of blocking their goal. Now mind you we're at midfield and I'm about 10 foot away from the scrum. No kid had tried to kick the ball towards me or anything. In fact at that age they just stayed in a big cluster that moved up and down the field. I guess he thought if by some miracle some kid did suddenly decide to kick the ball out of the pack I'd go Will Ferrell on him or something.
Posted by mkibod1
South of the Donna Dixon Line
Member since Jan 2011
4746 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 10:49 am to
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Oh shite, dude. He must have found this thread.


If so, its time for the OT to be the OT. Spam out his email, Facebook, and or phone number and allow these horrid deviants do their thing. He will hate his life full of spammed gay porn, piss balloons, and telemarketing calls soon enough. If it goes like previous threads, you may even get a restraining order or call from the popo on your "harassment".
Posted by Archie Bengal Bunker
Member since Jun 2008
15595 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 10:49 am to
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According to my wife you "stomped across the field"


my sides "are hurting"
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
71871 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 10:55 am to
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This year, I decided not to coach due to some work/travel obligations that caused me to miss the first couple of weeks of practice. She is in a 5-6 year old coach pitch softball league. They do keep score, three strikes, etc. 5 run rule per inning. The only thing our coach cares about is winning. Unfortunetly, she doesn't desire / doesn't know how to teach fundamentals. She has no idea how to teach a swing, throw a ball, etc. She just goes out there and pitches to them. Thus... the girls almost always can't hit. I've tried to helo my daughter before and after practice, but, I don't want to step out there and embarrass the coach. I've talked to her outside practice and offered my assistance if she needs help, which she declined.




I've seen a lot of that over my years at the ballpark and it saddens me that adults loose sight of the fact that kids sports is about teaching good lessons and having fun.

As for winning and losing, I've never used that as a measuring stick for a successful season despite the fact I've coached a number of championship teams. Instead I believe a youth sports coach should measure success by whether or not he's taught the kids good solid fundamentals, good sportsmanship & teamwork, and made it fun for them. It's been my experience that if a coach does these three things, winning and losing will usually take care of itself. And if at the end of a season the kids I've coached are better players than at the start of the season and they want to come back and play again next season, then it's been a good season.
Posted by Jack Daniel
Gold member
Member since Feb 2013
28513 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 10:57 am to
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My wife will shirly beat the ever living frick out of a coach who would have said such things while her child is hurt.


Don't call me Shirly
Posted by Nativebullet
Natchez, MS
Member since Feb 2011
5169 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 11:01 am to
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It's not your normal t ball though. We get outs to first from every position in the infield. We are way more advanced than any t ball I've ever seen. These kids want to win and are very aware of what's going on in the game. And yes, we do keep score.




I've been around t-ball for years and your statement, my friend, is complete BS.
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