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Posted on 5/10/25 at 8:09 pm to G The Tiger Fan
31 World Titles between these two.
Posted on 5/10/25 at 8:09 pm to tylerdurden24
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A lot of the PLEs just feel like themed RAW episodes
The Rock not bothering to remain involved in the Cena heel storyline, let alone make an appearance at WM underscores how cheap the quality of these storylines have gotten and the attitude of TKO has diluted the PLEs
WM in Philly was the peak of what it could be with celebrity involvement and infusion of legends into storylines. It’s like they shot their creative wad and now they can’t get buy in from their own bosses to build on that momentum
I'm just saying this as someone that was watching in the 90s and 00s, but everything feels smaller. The ramp is shorter, the ring looks smaller. It does not feel as grand. They let the entrance music play a lot longer. This might be intentional to make it more "intimate" but to me it just looks...cheap?
Posted on 5/10/25 at 8:09 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
this PLE gonna be shorter than Smackdown last night. No way Cena can do 60 mins.
Good thing these are on Peacock, would be mad if you paid for it.
Good thing these are on Peacock, would be mad if you paid for it.
Posted on 5/10/25 at 8:11 pm to tylerdurden24
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A lot of the PLEs just feel like themed RAW episodes
The Rock not bothering to remain involved in the Cena heel storyline, let alone make an appearance at WM underscores how cheap the quality of these storylines have gotten and the attitude of TKO has diluted the PLEs
WM in Philly was the peak of what it could be with celebrity involvement and infusion of legends into storylines. It’s like they shot their creative wad and now they can’t get buy in from their own bosses to build on that momentum
So youre telling me WWE needs the Tribal Chief back with the belt.
Posted on 5/10/25 at 8:12 pm to Lexis Dad
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31 World Titles between these two.
Oh these guys can go. Been watching them since they popped out of OVW. The match will be good. I was just talking about the overall production.
Posted on 5/10/25 at 8:12 pm to tylerdurden24
There is no reason for them to try hard creatively when the fans are going to pop for everything no matter what and are more interested in singing than seeing any matches. Every show sells out or comes close to it with ticket prices through the roof.
Posted on 5/10/25 at 8:12 pm to Fus0623
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That shot with the kid holding the sign panning to orton was beautiful holy shite
I missed it, what did it say?
Posted on 5/10/25 at 8:12 pm to Translator
Cena is the most over guy in wwe and his whole gimmick is to be as boring and bland as possible lol. We need new stars
Posted on 5/10/25 at 8:13 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
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I'm just saying this as someone that was watching in the 90s and 00s, but everything feels smaller. The ramp is shorter, the ring looks smaller. It does not feel as grand. They let the entrance music play a lot longer. This might be intentional to make it more "intimate" but to me it just looks...cheap?
This is prob my biggest issue with HHH. He is more the antithesis of Vince McMahon showmanship.
99-00 RAW is WAR on a Monday Night had more pyro, better showmanship than anything outside of WM this year.
Posted on 5/10/25 at 8:13 pm to tylerdurden24
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Ido enjoy Orton as a face after growing up with him as a heel.
Same.
But Orton was a top-level heel.
Posted on 5/10/25 at 8:14 pm to Lexis Dad
Can't believe this is the last man we will ever see hold the WWE title
Posted on 5/10/25 at 8:14 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
Arguably one of the best rivalries of the last 30 years.
Crazy they came up together in OVW.
Crazy they came up together in OVW.
Posted on 5/10/25 at 8:14 pm to Wishnitwas1998
quote:After he retires, I think that makes Dom the top champion in the company.
Can't believe this is the last man we will ever see hold the WWE title
Posted on 5/10/25 at 8:14 pm to JamalMurry27
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Cena is the most over guy in wwe and his whole gimmick is to be as boring and bland as possible lol.
You're thinking of Cody. Cena's promos are still great.
Posted on 5/10/25 at 8:15 pm to G The Tiger Fan
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think we learned last night on Smackdown that there are now 2 Randy Ortons.
Yea did we ever find out who that was? Watched it today
Posted on 5/10/25 at 8:16 pm to Wishnitwas1998
I think I read it was Shawn Spears.
Posted on 5/10/25 at 8:16 pm to Brosef Stalin
Yeah his promos are but mainly because noone else can do a good one. Whats the finish here? Cena intentional Dq?
Posted on 5/10/25 at 8:16 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
I think it’s a lot of by product of making things easier to film and cost cutting (shorter ramp, less material to transport week over week, more floor space to pack people into with overpriced tickets). The attitude era had a lot of charms simply because everything was still kind of new making Wrestling into a reality TV show. Now that you can watch virtually every match ever (not to mention a billion different wrestling highlights) on Peacock/Netflix and now that there are dozens of Wrestling fan/influencer channels on YouTube that cover the industry (and make kayfabe even more apparent), the novelty just isn’t what it was.
Posted on 5/10/25 at 8:17 pm to G The Tiger Fan
Only issue with this match is there is no way this old man cena could defeat this beast incarnate randy orton. Even in a scripted match lol
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