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re: Would you vax for Hanta?

Posted on 5/7/26 at 9:00 pm to
Posted by sabanisarustedspoke
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 9:00 pm to
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Let’s say this gets out of control and there’s a massive risk of human to human spread….Given the drastic difference between the effects of Covid and Hanta, would you take a quick vax after a Trump Operation Warp Speed 2?

Or are you taking your principled stance again this time?


Define Vax. That definition has changed significantly since 2020.
Posted by 4x4tiger
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2006
5792 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 9:03 pm to
If Hantavirus had to be on a cruise ship, why not Carnival New Orleans?
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
80711 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 9:06 pm to
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If it got bad enough i might do an old fashioned vax. I will not do a mrna vax.


Funny thing is the J&J and AstraZenica jabs were traditional vaccines but were more toxic and less effective than the mRNA jabs.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38025 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 9:12 pm to
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Hantavirus is nothing to be trifled with.


Are you a virologist?
Posted by Spocks Brain
Member since Nov 2025
238 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 9:21 pm to
It has a 40% mortality rate- this wouldn’t be a mask up and social distance 6 feet- only complete isolation would be the solution to ensure survival
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38025 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 9:48 pm to
And you got your medical degree from which institution?
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 10:11 pm to
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Are you a virologist?


No. But I am a biologist (by training) that spent a good portion of their career dealing (tangentially) in microbiology.

Hantavirus (with traditional rodent vector spread) scares the crap out of me. I've had to work/visit a fair number of places where it was a real issue/concern. (The desert southwest is a traditional hot spot.) A human transmissional form is a nightmare scenario.
This post was edited on 5/7/26 at 10:16 pm
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 10:20 pm to
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Nope. Pureblood. Rather die on my feet than live on my knees


Posted by Spocks Brain
Member since Nov 2025
238 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 10:46 pm to
The Medical School of Common Sense you dolt
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38025 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 10:52 pm to
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No. But I am a biologist (by training) that spent a good portion of their career dealing (tangentially) in microbiology.


A biologist of what? No offense, but a tangential relationship with the subject doesn’t instill a lot of confidence. My wife is a veterinarian. She has a tangential relationship with zoonotic diseases as well. But that doesn’t make her an expert on Hantavirus. And during Covid this site and (society in general) was littered with those who claimed to have authority on the subject but were only parroting whatever narratives fit their beliefs.
I’m not trying to be a dick, but we already suffered (quite literally) through plenty of “experts” during COVID who were all flat arse wrong. Not really in the mood to go through that again.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 5/8/26 at 2:42 am to
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A biologist of what? No offense, but a tangential relationship with the subject doesn’t instill a lot of confidence. My wife is a veterinarian. She has a tangential relationship with zoonotic diseases as well. But that doesn’t make her an expert on Hantavirus


I don't think you're a jerk for pressing the issue. I think it's smart to vet people on the depth and breadth where their knowledge on a subject they talk about it. That being said, I'd say my knowledge of it is slightly above average but way, Way, WAY below anything approaching expert.

I have an advanced degree as well and deal generally with public health, but don't do real "science" anymore nor have i in quite a while. I've had all the microbiology/physiology/anatomy classes you'd expect as part of my training. This includes the appropriate subset of training on how viruses work/reproduce/spread as part of that curriculum (including the differences between DNA, RNA and reverse transcriptase viruses, but that was a LONG time ago and much of that knowledge has been erased from my brain). As i said, I'm no expert on hantavirus, but I have had more education in an advanced setting that a vast majority of the general population. I know enough about it to know it's a nasty disease. But I make no claims to be an expert on this or any virus.

I think your assessment of what happened during covid is fair. What's also fair is I never said if I would or wouldn't take a vaccine. Honestly i don't know at this point because there isn't enough information about the disease nor what a vaccine would look like. My ONLY statement is hantavirus, at least the N. American strain I'm most familar with, is not something you want to fool around with.

Now I might be hyper sensitive because one of my cohorts in grad school died in the 1990s from what they suspected was hantavirus we (his friends) never officially heard. They might have told his family, but they never shared that info with us if they did. When the CDC flies in from Atlanta and takes tissue samples of your lungs during an autopsy, it's serious. We never heard the official cause of death, but he went from a very healthy young person to intensive care to the funeral home in just over a week.

Please don't underestimate this disease because of our shared botched experience(s) dealing with covid. That was all I'm really trying to say.

This post was edited on 5/8/26 at 7:27 am
Posted by Houtexlandscape
Houston
Member since May 2018
618 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 3:47 am to
Yep Ivermectin cures it
Posted by Armymann50
Playing with my
Member since Sep 2011
22377 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 4:12 am to
I'm not sweeping rat dropping in a dusty enclosed building in southwest New Mexico.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
49642 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 4:20 am to
Nope, and no antivirus exists for it
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
17948 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 5:01 am to
nope
Posted by Teufelhunden
Galvez, LA
Member since Feb 2005
6039 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 6:38 am to
Not needed for me. I am a descendant of the Corvinus Clan
Posted by Easye921
Mobile
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 5/8/26 at 6:47 am to
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This post was edited on 5/8/26 at 6:49 am
Posted by Tigerfan1274
Member since May 2019
4660 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 6:51 am to
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I’m not trying to be a dick, but we already suffered (quite literally) through plenty of “experts” during COVID who were all flat arse wrong.


You are not wrong, but I don't think is apples to apples. This strain of hantavirus has been known for over 30 years and it's lethality is documented. During COVID, the experts were wrong. It was a novel virus and they presented all of their assumptions and opinions as scientific fact and that was not the case. I think the data we have on the Hantavirus is sound and that is why I have very little concern. It is not easily transmissible from human to human.
This post was edited on 5/8/26 at 6:52 am
Posted by DeathValley85
Member since May 2011
19209 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 10:02 am to
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And you got your medical degree from which institution?


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