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Would we be as technologically advanced without the Cold War?
Posted on 2/8/18 at 10:04 am
Posted on 2/8/18 at 10:04 am
Hypothetically, let's say Operation Barbarossa succeeded and Germany wiped away the communist then the Allies eventually won in the west and restored the Russian Empire or any alternative than the Reds.
Without the Cold War and the resulting technology/arms/space race against the Soviet Union for 45 years, are we in the same spot technology-wise that we are today? Or does China take the place of the Soviet Union and we repeat the same history but with a different country?
Without the Cold War and the resulting technology/arms/space race against the Soviet Union for 45 years, are we in the same spot technology-wise that we are today? Or does China take the place of the Soviet Union and we repeat the same history but with a different country?
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 10:07 am to Loungefly85
Economists regard military technology as a dead-end investment. Sure, there are spinoffs, but from a pure quality of life standpoint, the money is better spent elsewhere. So, we would probably be less advanced in some areas, but more advanced overall.
Example: We may not be as far along in trauma medicine, but we may have cured cancer.
Example: We may not be as far along in trauma medicine, but we may have cured cancer.
This post was edited on 2/8/18 at 10:09 am
Posted on 2/8/18 at 10:08 am to Loungefly85
would not have GPS
Posted on 2/8/18 at 10:09 am to Loungefly85
of course not
lots of bad things produce good outcomes
both the World Wars also produced massive advances in technology
lots of bad things produce good outcomes
both the World Wars also produced massive advances in technology
Posted on 2/8/18 at 10:10 am to Loungefly85
Bush did 9/11
Posted on 2/8/18 at 10:14 am to Loungefly85
If in your scenario Germany still exists and is still pouring resources into engineering, we are probably pretty close to the same place.
In a global peace type scenario you are probably trading things like moon landings for efficient desalination or something else that seems far off.
In a global peace type scenario you are probably trading things like moon landings for efficient desalination or something else that seems far off.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 10:16 am to Jim Rockford
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Economists regard military technology as a dead-end investment. Sure, there are spinoffs, but from a pure quality of life standpoint, the money is better spent elsewhere. So, we would probably be less advanced in some areas, but more advanced overall.
That is highly debated among economists and not settled at all.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 10:17 am to Loungefly85
I would say a more important factor was the Space race which of course was an off shoot of the Cold War.. to what extent do we go full bore into the unknown without the Cold War is the question
Posted on 2/8/18 at 10:18 am to AbuTheMonkey
Well...a tank is not manufacturing other tanks, or creating consumer goods and services.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 10:18 am to Ballbuster69
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Bush did 9/11
Can confirm
Posted on 2/8/18 at 10:23 am to Loungefly85
We could have advanced gender studies 50 years already without the cold war distraction, all that money going to ICBMs could have gone to creati...uh, discovering thousands of new genders
Posted on 2/8/18 at 10:23 am to Jim Rockford
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Well...a tank is not manufacturing other tanks
Neither is a shoe or a cabinet, but all have economic benefits.
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or creating consumer goods and services
Does the American public not "consume" the tank? Or the individual tank driver?
The very existence of private military contractors undercuts your thinking here.
You'll have to define what exactly you mean by "dead end investment" because I've never heard economists that I've been around use that term.
This post was edited on 2/8/18 at 10:26 am
Posted on 2/8/18 at 11:52 am to Loungefly85
Not a chance. The Cold War was the justification for the R&D. Without the commie bastards as a threat, there is a zero percent chance the budgets would have been approved.
Economists, like most academics, live outside reality.
Economists, like most academics, live outside reality.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 11:54 am to Loungefly85
The aliens came before the Cold War, baw.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 11:57 am to Loungefly85
We’d be back 2 decades at least. No question.
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