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Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:19 am to yellowfin
In Texas?
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:24 am to 50_Tiger
I was thinking about moving out of Texas so I posted a few threads about places to live . Then I decided I wanted to go back to college so I posted a few threads about colleges. Now I'm thinking about what I want to do, yes. Tune in next week for a day in the life of the Collegedropout.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:32 am to Collegedropout
I did about 2-3 years ago. Seemed like a sweet gig and they made good money but all of them were laid off. One of them works offshore now.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:36 am to tiger09
If I start working as a "field" landman right out of college, assuming the oil and gas industry isn't doing crummy, I will be making more than most people do when they graduate. I don't want to spend my life driving around South or West Texas (or Appalachia) so eventually I would like to go "in-house" if I am able to find a job in non-West Texas/Louisiana. It might be easier to go"in-house" if I work as a lease/title analyst but I won't make as much at I would being a field landman.
Realistically I might spend 5 years in the field then become an analyst if I can't switch over to in-house right away.
Of course, in the next 2 years the oil and gas industry could be nationalized for all I know.
Realistically I might spend 5 years in the field then become an analyst if I can't switch over to in-house right away.
Of course, in the next 2 years the oil and gas industry could be nationalized for all I know.
This post was edited on 10/12/17 at 8:37 am
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:36 am to TigerNlc
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Seemed like a sweet gig and they made good money but all of them were laid off. One of them works offshore now.
OceanMan?
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:39 am to GaryMyMan
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OceanMan?
Nah, I don't think this guy tigerdrops. There's probably a lot of them that work offshore now.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:41 am to TigerNlc
On my broad landman job searches I never see any in Louisiana. Maybe 1 in New Orleans.
Mostly in:
Midland/Odessa
Oklahoma City
Denver
East Ohio
West Pennsylvania
West Virginia
Tyler, Texas
Houston/The Woodlands
Dallas/Fort Worth/sometimes one of the suburbs
Sometimes Austin or San Antonio.
Mostly in:
Midland/Odessa
Oklahoma City
Denver
East Ohio
West Pennsylvania
West Virginia
Tyler, Texas
Houston/The Woodlands
Dallas/Fort Worth/sometimes one of the suburbs
Sometimes Austin or San Antonio.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:42 am to Collegedropout
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If I start working as a "field" landman right out of college, assuming the oil and gas industry isn't doing crummy, I will be making more than most people do when they graduate
I'd be hesitant on picking anything that has to do with oil and gas unless you have a very specific skill set.
If you're just worried about making the most money with the least amount of education, give the maritime industry a look. Both land and water jobs pay well
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:44 am to Collegedropout
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If I start working as a "field" landman right out of college, assuming the oil and gas industry isn't doing crummy, I will be making more than most people do when they graduate.
While this is true, finding a broker that will give you a job with no experience will be... difficult. People are hiring right now, but those jobs are going to people who were laid off in the last downturn, people who are coming back to the industry, or women who have taken time off. You have to know how to run title in order to get hired. Most places will require experience within their target geographic area.
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I don't want to spend my life driving around South or West Texas (or Appalachia) so eventually I would like to go "in-house"
My man. This is a great strategy, in theory. (I had the same idea, gave it 5 years, now I have to be a lawyer). Practically, it's just on the other side of realistic. E&P companies ONLY hire landmen with in-house experience. Even if you try to aim lower for the analyst job, they'll see that you're an independent landman and likely trash your resume.
It's not impossible to get that in-house job, you just need to start there. Internships come up, once in a blue moon. Some lower level analyst jobs come up with no experience required. It's much easier to work your way up from the inside, rather than coming from making $80k/year as an independent then starting over at $40k.
This post was edited on 10/12/17 at 8:50 am
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:46 am to Collegedropout
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On my broad landman job searches I never see any in Louisiana. Maybe 1 in New Orleans. Mostly in: Midland/Odessa Oklahoma City Denver East Ohio West Pennsylvania West Virginia Tyler, Texas Houston/The Woodlands Dallas/Fort Worth/sometimes one of the suburbs Sometimes Austin or San Antonio.
Yeah, there was a lot of work here about 4-5 years ago but at the same time I know people that moved to Colorado and Pennsylvania.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:48 am to GaryMyMan
So you think I'm better off starting as a Land Tech - Lease/Title/Division Order Analyst - or Land Admin and then hoping I can move up to an "in-house" Landman?
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:51 am to Deactived
I'm still young so I don't mind going to class, I would like to try to make 200k a year one day so I'm probably gonna need a degree unless I come up with an idea and start a business.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:52 am to GaryMyMan
And thanks for the honest advice.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:52 am to Collegedropout
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So you think I'm better off starting as a Land Tech - Lease/Title/Division Order Analyst - or Land Admin and then hoping I can move up to an "in-house" Landman?
Probably. I know landmen (ladies too!) who have made their way up the ladder that way. Be good at the job, show initiative and let your superiors know your goals.
I'm not sure how literal your user name is, but all the in-house landmen I know have bachelor's degrees at least. The ones who didn't get a degree in land management [handwank], usually go back and get masters in energy management. The trick is, if you get in with a good company they'll pay for school.
This post was edited on 10/17/17 at 8:27 pm
Posted on 10/12/17 at 9:02 am to GaryMyMan
Are you a landman or have another o&g job?
Posted on 10/12/17 at 9:04 am to Collegedropout
Yea I can't think of many jobs that pay 200k without a degree.
The highest level maritime jobs can pay that(captains when the industry is up and pilots), but a degree is pretty much needed now
The highest level maritime jobs can pay that(captains when the industry is up and pilots), but a degree is pretty much needed now
Posted on 10/12/17 at 9:05 am to Collegedropout
I was an independent landman for almost 6 years, I left to practice law. In early 2016 I was without work for 7 weeks while my wife was pregnant - it motivated me to find something more stable. The real trick is finding a good broker to work for - mine was awesome, with clients all over the country, but those weeks off were more stressful than I was prepared for. And my time off was SO much shorter than many in the industry.
This post was edited on 10/12/17 at 9:10 am
Posted on 10/12/17 at 9:05 am to Collegedropout
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Tyler, Texas
Don't go here. TRUST ME.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 9:08 am to GaryMyMan
Wow - hope y'all are doing well - Did you already have your JD or are you now in law school?
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