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re: Woman killed by pit bull at West Monroe pet boarding facility

Posted on 1/10/18 at 2:03 pm to
Posted by crtodd
Member since Nov 2005
1723 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 2:03 pm to
There is no way to argue with a pit owner. They're always right, and if someone is killed by one, they really don't care. They could watch a pit chew a child to shreds, won't care, won't believe it was a pit, and the kid had to deserved it.

Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/10/18 at 2:03 pm to
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 2:03 pm to
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Mine are peer reviewed journals, experts, and organizations say they are not.
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Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297390 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 2:04 pm to
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BUT I SAW A FACEBOOK POST WHERE THE PITBULL IS NICE!!1!!1


Was there a skinny white dude with a flat bill, neck tats and baggy pants holding a blunt? Think I saw it too.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
35878 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 2:06 pm to
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big babby's


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would of never


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I have 5 resq pittys


Checks out.
Posted by HotKoolaid
Member since Oct 2017
444 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 2:07 pm to
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tgrbaitn08



Boxers are pit bulls now? Cool.
Posted by HogBalls
Member since Nov 2014
8923 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 2:08 pm to
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quote: Pit bulls make up only 6% of the dog population, and they’re responsible for 68% of dog attacks and 52% of dog-related deaths since 1982

So Pits are the "cultcha" of the dog world?
Posted by Darth Aranda
Naboo
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 1/10/18 at 2:08 pm to
Actually it was a white trash girl that’s taking a load of BBC
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297390 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 2:15 pm to
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TJGator1215


Doesnt surprise me that youre a Pitt owner

[/quote]But he's wrong, and dead wrong if we're talking about pit bulls. All men may be created equal, but not all dogs. Says Katherine Houpt, director of the Animal Behavior Clinic at Cornell and author of Domestic Animal Behavior: "Different breeds have genetic predispositions to certain kinds of behavior, though that can be influenced by how they are raised. The pit bull is an innately aggressive breed, often owned by someone who wants an aggressive dog, so they're going to encourage it.

Pit bulls are genetically wired to kill
The pit bull's unusual breeding history has produced some bizarre behavioral traits, de- scribed by The Economist's science editor in an article published a few years ago, at the peak of a heated British controversy over dangerous dogs that saw the pit bull banned in England. First, the pit bull is quicker to anger than most dogs, probably due to the breed's unusually high level of the neurotransmitter L-tyrosine. Second, pit bulls are frighteningly tenacious; their attacks frequently last for 15 minutes or longer, and nothing—hoses, violent blows or kicks—can easily stop them. That's because of the third behavioral anomaly: the breed's remarkable insensitivity to pain. Most dogs beaten in a fight will submit the next time they see the victor. Not a defeated pit bull, who will tear into his onetime vanquisher. This, too, has to do with brain chemistry. The body releases endorphins as a natural painkiller. Pit bulls seem extra-sensitive to endorphins and may generate higher levels of the chemical than other dogs. Endorphins are also addictive: "The dogs may be junkies, seeking pain so they can get the endorphin buzz they crave," The Economist suggests.
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The problem isnt the frequency of arracks necessarily, it's the severity of the attacks
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
34810 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 2:17 pm to
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Do some consider American bulldogs in the same class as pitbulls?


no.

my mountain cur, boxer, something-else mix always gets the "Oh she has some pit in her" thing. Only when she is obsessed with the tennis ball game or begging for food does she look remotely pit-y. Doesn't have a protective bone in her body--she is all about "me" (as in her).



someone could've been strangling me in this pic, and she would look exactly the same.

our cute fuzzy shepherd-coyote thing above is much more likely to kick someone or thing's arse. he has a wild streak or two.
This post was edited on 1/10/18 at 2:23 pm
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
34810 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 2:22 pm to
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You should have separated the dogs, secured them both and then beat her arse.


had it been a dude and my wife not been with me, i would've lost it. i've never really been in a fight in my life, but my adrenaline was pumping something fierce. I had to just walk away and never go back.
Posted by AU_251
Your dads room
Member since Feb 2013
12112 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 2:26 pm to
What percentage of those pits do you think are owned by members of that “cultcha”?

Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
141550 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 2:28 pm to
Let me guess.

The same trash that typically defends this trashy breed are claiming their dogs are the exception and would not harm s fly?
Posted by HogBalls
Member since Nov 2014
8923 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 2:28 pm to
Wtf kind of dog is that in the first pic??? That's a ugly sumbitch.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
141550 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 2:30 pm to
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What percentage of those pits do you think are owned by members of that “cultcha”?


100%.

Some culcha owners just happen to be white.

Aren’t you the one that allows your pit to babysit your 5 year old?
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 2:33 pm to
Enjoy:

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ASPCA

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People who have studied these cases, like Jeffrey Sacks at the CDC, have shown that when it comes to fatalities caused by pit bulls, the breed identifications are often not accurate. The title “pit bull” has expanded so dramatically over the years that people are lumping any dog with a large head and short coat into that category rather than separating out each of the pit bull breeds.


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am. A study on fatalities between 2000-2009 in the journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association found that in over 80 percent of those cases there were four or more significant factors related to the care and control of the dog. These were dogs that had not been socialized; were large and sexually intact; and had no relationship to the person who was killed. In other words, perfect storm of factor upon factor.


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Secondly, there’s no science that bears that idea out. When people say, “Oh, these dogs are bred for fighting,” it’s true that the original breed, the American pit bull terrier, which originated in 1889, was developed for fighting. But the three other breeds that are lumped into this category have always been dog show conformation breeds. They don’t have that heritage. The fact that they get lumped in is part of the problem because we’re basing things on what they look like and not necessarily what they are. [Meetthe United States' most popular dog breeds.]


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Dog fighting is a serious problem, but all the cruelty investigators I consulted said that it is decreasing. It happens both in the country and city. There is professional dog fighting, which has traditionally been white and rural. Then you have urban dog fighting, which is more a one-off, “I want to see if my dog can beat your dog.” Both are forms of torture and need to be eradicated


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mostly comes from fear. Obviously, the police have a very difficult job. But the trigger-happy mentality is pretty bad. There was a case in Idaho recently where a policeman shot a dog in a car because it barked at him. The officer claimed that he was shooting a vicious pit bull. In fact, the dog was a registered black Labrador

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Secondly, statistics about the actual rates of pit bull violence towards humans compared to other dogs are notably tricky to pin down. (One reason for this is that people, even experts, persistently misidentify dogs as pit bull types even when they're genetically something else entirely; a study of dog shelter staff published this February showed that non-pit bull dogs can be identified as pit bulls up to 48 percent of the time, and shelter staff disagreed with each other about breed constantly.) Astonishingly, the dog that sparked the Montreal law might not actually be a pit bull type at all; the Montreal police have given it DNA analysis to determine its actual origins.


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you really want to dive into statistics, though, you'll need to check out the American Veterinary Medical Association's evaluation of the science of dog bites. It's a review of the major studies on dog violence, and it makes for very interesting reading. For one, they note that one of the big things we often don't take into account is the popularity of breeds. The AVMA found a bunch of studies that showed that, when linked to the number of households that actually had them, pit bulls aren't more violent towards humans than any other breed. They noted that "fatal dog attacks in some areas of Canada are attributed mainly to sled dogs and Siberian Huskies, presumably due to the regional prevalence of these breeds." (Montreal, presumably, isn't in one of those regions.) And in Italy, mastiff-type dogs are very popular (and also perceived as aggressive), but aren't more likely to bite than any other dog when you take their numbers into account.




LINK


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Every mainstream national organization that is involved in canine/human interactions is opposed to laws targeting specific breeds of dogs. An at-least partial list of these organizations include:

American Dog Owners Association

American Humane

American Kennel Club (AKC)

American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (ASPCA)

American Veterinary Medical Association  (AVMA)

American Working Dog Federation

Association of Pet Dog Trainers

Best Friends

Center for Disease Control

Humane Society of the United States (HSUS)

International Association of Animal Behavior Consultants

International Association of Canine Professionals

National Animal Control Association

National Animal Interest Alliance

National  Association of Dog Obedience Instructors

National Canine Research Council

No Kill Advocacy Center




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OT peer reviewed journals and data that show "pits" are dangerous and should be banned:

Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 2:34 pm to
Most dog fighters are white, and from Louisiana. Who knew?
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
141550 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 2:34 pm to
TJ if they are so safe, why does PETA advocate having the breed neutered to extinction?
Posted by maxxrajun70
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2011
3726 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 2:35 pm to
what the frick is with this breed? Why do they attack?
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 2:41 pm to
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but we believe that it would have been in the animals’ best interests if the institution of “pet keeping”—i.e., breeding animals to be kept and regarded as “pets”—never existed. The international pastime of domesticating animals has created an overpopulation crisis; as a result, millions of unwanted animals are destroyed every year as “surplus.”


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