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re: Wisconsin Transgender Student Wins Battle to Run For Prom King

Posted on 4/8/16 at 3:55 pm to
Posted by ballscaster
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Posted on 4/8/16 at 3:55 pm to
Please stop replying to my posts. This is the second time I've asked. Thanks.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38570 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 3:56 pm to
Do you need a safe place? Get your own message board.
This post was edited on 4/8/16 at 3:57 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91873 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 3:57 pm to
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Irrelevant.




You're free to choose who/what you want to identify as, but this idea that you have to be treated the same as that group is asinine.

If she can identify as a male and we have to let her run for Prom King, how can you argue against other people who want to do the same in order to manipulate the system?

Can I, as a Caucasian, identify as a Pacific Islander or some other minority in an attempt to get scholarships and grants? Can I identify as a woman in an effort to get women-only scholarships?


I tend to not give a shite about this kind of thing when it doesn't affect me - like gay marriage for instance - but this gender identity shite is getting out of hand.

We aren't "assigned" a sex at birth. It isn't a choice. If you want to be a boy, that is fine by me, but I shouldn't be obligated to treat you as a male when you are in fact a female.
Posted by DanMullins4Life
Member since Oct 2012
3168 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 3:57 pm to
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feels


I had a friend named Tony, knew him since we were both six years old(same age). Tony had two butts, one butt on the front and one butt on the back. In fourth grade, Tony was afraid to use the bathroom with the rest of us guys in the class because of his two butts. One day, I went to the bathroom and found Tony in there, he had snuck off during one of the quiet hours because no one ever went to the bathroom during those hours.

And that's when I realized, Tony had two butts. I didn't say anything, I was horrified. Tony looked at me and said, "Please don't tell anyone about my butts.". Despite my 9-year immaturity level, I didn't. To this day, no one knows about Tony's extra butt, except me. Tony's a married man now, works as a salesperson, I see his wife at the grocery store sometime.

One time I even asked her, about Tony's second butt and she looked me straight in the eye and said, "You know, Tony may have been born with two butts. But in his mind, he has only one. And that's all that matters."
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
24301 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 3:57 pm to
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Some?

Yea like Caitlyn Jenner. He became a woman to date a woman. He wanted to be a lesbian
Posted by That's BS
Smoothie King Center
Member since Jan 2012
1785 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 4:01 pm to
It looks like a young Ted Cruz.



Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
141148 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 4:01 pm to
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Your biology does not make you male or female


Geez, I hope you don't teach or talk in public.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 4:02 pm to
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You're free to choose who/what you want to identify as
This
quote:

this idea that you have to be treated the same as that group is asinine.
Equal.
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We aren't "assigned" a sex at birth. It isn't a choice
But the word and role of "Prom King" is assigned a gender, and it's contrived, and having a person born female as a prom king moves no needle of importance. Any resistance against this thing is silly.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38570 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 4:07 pm to
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But the word and role of "Prom King" is assigned a gender, and it's contrived

Sorry that words actually mean something and not everyone is interested in playing Pin the Pronoun on the Donkey every time we refer to someone.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91873 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 4:07 pm to
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Any resistance against this thing is silly.


I tend to think the Pandora's box argument is ridiculous with some of the pro-LGBT rulings that we've seen, but this is one where I have to draw the line. There are already documented cases of people taking advantage of "gender identity" for perverse reasons, and it will only get worse. I also fail to see how you can keep it contained to sex. If a man wants to be a woman, and we have to treat him like a woman and give him the same benefits that a woman would have, how can you stop someone from identifying as an object or another race in order to manipulate the system?

It may sound ridiculous, but people are already taking it there, so it is worthy of a discussion.
Posted by tigersbh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
13381 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 4:08 pm to
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It's not a problem. Are you a bigot against child molestation, or do you accept it?


quote:

Stupid question.


That's what people say when they don't want to answer.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
159389 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 4:12 pm to
Are you against Rex identifying as a dog?
Posted by rondo
Worst. Poster. Evar.
Member since Jan 2004
77520 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 4:15 pm to
Good for Ash.

Am I supposed to care about this?
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38570 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 4:18 pm to
quote:

Are you against Rex identifying as a dog?

Rex has put more time into being a dog than the average trans has put into changing genders. I'll allow it.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 4:19 pm to
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It may sound ridiculous, but people are already taking it there, so it is worthy of getting over it
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 4:20 pm to
quote:


Sorry that words actually mean something and not everyone is interested in playing Pin the Pronoun on the Donkey every time we refer to someone.
He
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
80824 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 4:20 pm to
Guarantee you that fricker wins to
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 4:20 pm to
quote:

That's what people say when they don't want to answer.
Correct. I won't engage in a debate based on the premise that I might be in favor of child molestation.
Posted by BOSCEAUX
Where the Down Boys go.
Member since Mar 2008
53020 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 4:21 pm to
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I'm guessing some red blooded Christian Americans in WI are all up in arms triggered and in need of a safe place.


You have either become a try too hard or you were prom queen in the joint and can empathize. Which one is it?
Posted by BOSCEAUX
Where the Down Boys go.
Member since Mar 2008
53020 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 4:24 pm to
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quote: SHE is a fricking female. Not your decision.


The party of science ladies and gentlemen, but only when it fits the narrative. Unless you are born a hermaphrodite you are what you fricking are.
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