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re: Wisconsin police release deadly shooting of police and paramedics trying to help a man
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:43 am to Bedhog
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:43 am to Bedhog
quote:
I don't see how the gun wasn't found before they revived him
This was a medical call so generally EMS and Fire may be on scene before officers and start to treat the patient. Im more surprised that the gun wasnt found when medics first started to asses the man.
A basic, non invasive pat frisk while the guy was unconscious could have prevented this but the legality of doing such a search on someone that isnt suspected of committing a crime is a slippery slope.
The most alarming thing to me is when the suspect backed away drawing his weapon he fumbled with it for a moment getting it un-holstered. Due to his behavior I feel one of the officers on scene should have been positioned and ready for the possible threat.
Of course im just analyzing the crap out of it and nit picking. Truth is, some times bad shite just happens
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Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:44 am to whit
Obvious blackhand
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:45 am to tigerfoot
quote:
How would you feel if you found out that 20 minutes ago he was ODing on a bus and the police just let him walk on down the street?
Would suck but I also understand that a person being treated for a medical issue isnt subject to a search. While a non invasive pat frisk would have discovered a gun on a hip, one better concealed may not be found.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:46 am to EarlyCuyler3
quote:that depends.... Do I have my worst day once? Or all the time because I shoot up heroin?
Would you like to be judged by your worst day all the time?
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:46 am to Sneaky__Sally
quote:Well yeah.
The thing is, when someone is truly "addicted", you can take away whatever substance and get over the acute withdrawals - but then there is a period, sometimes up to two years, of "post acute withdrawals" - essentially peoples brains trying to get back up to speed. Long term addiction literally re-wires the brain and you aren't getting serotonin, dopamine and other brain chems like a normal, functional human
People decide to enjoy their drugs so often for so long that it alters the chemistry of their body. Those are really poor decisions.
quote:Why?
So addicts undergo a long, long period of hopelessness, depression, malaise and when the brain is in that kind of depressed mode, not seeing any way out, a lot return to drugs
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:47 am to Sneaky__Sally
Well the internet is filled with armchair doctors, lawyers, scientists, athletes, etc.
It’s hilarious because these people don’t do research of their own, refuse to believe any of the current research out there, and often have no experience of their own. Yet they know what they’re talking about.
It’s hilarious because these people don’t do research of their own, refuse to believe any of the current research out there, and often have no experience of their own. Yet they know what they’re talking about.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:48 am to CarRamrod
quote:Doing something ridiculous and mean while high as hell doesn’t automatically mean you’re a bad person..
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Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:49 am to BugAC
quote:
And what the cops should have done was search the perp before all of this happened
Systematic racism...
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:50 am to EarlyCuyler3
quote:in true medicine it is. All of these "Centers" has accepted it to appease the people. Just how some boards are starting to "accept" there being more that 2 genders. When science specifically states there are 2.
No it's not. Not in medicine.
This post was edited on 6/18/19 at 10:50 am
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:50 am to PiscesTiger
quote:
You cannot win as a cop in these situations. Shoot him immediately because you KNOW that the bulge COULD be a gun. Play it safe and allow him to fire first. And of course no one expects a man to start shooting at people who just revived him.
Why didn't they search him while he was out?
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:50 am to CarRamrod
quote:
that depends.... Do I have my worst day once? Or all the time because I shoot up heroin?
Did he say that incident happened all the time or just once?
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:51 am to CarRamrod
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CarRamrod
Are you really trying to argue with me on my friend being a good person? Did he make an arse out of himself while in active addiction, for sure. But you don't even know him.
quote:
are you that jaded? Of course no one has done less because they didn't know about it. But it is a fact they have done more because they did know about it. The way you worded your statement is reminiscent of an addict that knows he is going out to use and tells everyone he is going to church.
I was answering another posters question. Again, try to keep up.
quote:
But it is a fact they have done more because they did know about it.
Heroin addicts hate narcan, it's basically their kryptonite, it blocks the receptors in your brain so you can't get high a few hours. They do everything in their power to avoid Narcan as it does nothing but ensure they cannot get high for about half a day. You have no clue what you are talking about and it's obvious
This post was edited on 6/18/19 at 11:16 am
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:51 am to 1BamaRTR
I’d like to avoid the disease of addiction.
Do you know of any ways that I can avoid it?
Do you know of any ways that I can avoid it?
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:51 am to CarRamrod
quote:
in true medicine it is.
Ok, show me this "true medicine" you speak of then.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:53 am to ReauxlTide222
quote:
I’d like to avoid the disease of addiction.
Do you know of any ways that I can avoid it?
Do you think cancer is also not a disease?
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:54 am to ReauxlTide222
quote:
I’d like to avoid the disease of addiction.
Wouldn't we all. The fact that you guys think that addicts want to be addicts just shows your ignorance. No one wakes up and wants to be an addict. That person OD'ing and shooting up in the bathroom of a filthy gas station just wants the same feeling you get from a beer or a joint.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:54 am to Ed Osteen
quote:tomato potato there are some shitstains some people like. Doesn't make them less of a shitstain.
Are you really trying to argue with me on my friend being a good person? Did he make an arse out of himself while in active addiction, for sure. But you don't even know him.
Look he might be a cool dude most of the time but he has that percentage that could snap at any minute. Like pits. And most people don't want to associate with that shite.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:56 am to CarRamrod
quote:
Look he might be a cool dude most of the time but he has that percentage that could snap at any minute. Like pits
You've shown your hand.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:56 am to CarRamrod
OK sure bro, again I have no clue why out of everything in this thread you picked that one line to argue with. You are just going out of your way to be an a-hole
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:57 am to LNCHBOX
Sure, cancer is a disease if that’s what people want to label it as. Same with addiction. I don’t care what we call these things.
Now can you give me some ways to avoid addiction please?
Now can you give me some ways to avoid addiction please?
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