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re: Will there ever be another true serial killer?
Posted on 3/1/20 at 7:57 am to SavageOrangeJug
Posted on 3/1/20 at 7:57 am to SavageOrangeJug
There are probably a hundred out there right now.
Probably at least a few that clicked this thread.
Probably at least a few that clicked this thread.
Posted on 3/1/20 at 8:34 am to Lucky_Stryke
Posted on 3/1/20 at 8:38 am to Lucky_Stryke
DTL got caught because he targeted college students and middele class women. A serial killer who goes after societal throwaways like prostitutes and transients can get away with it indefinitely. The I35 killer (or killers) in Texas has been at large since the eighties.
Posted on 3/1/20 at 8:46 am to Lucky_Stryke
It is incredibly difficult to catch a killer that is completely unrelated to the victim. Much of forensic evidence is worthless without a suspect to match.
Posted on 3/1/20 at 8:51 am to Lucky_Stryke
As long as prostitution is illegal, there will be plenty of serial killers.
Posted on 3/1/20 at 8:58 am to LSUGrrrl
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Much of forensic evidence is worthless without a suspect to match.
Hence 23andme etc. That's a serial killers worse nightmare because they can't control their cousin giving a sample.
Posted on 3/1/20 at 9:17 am to Lucky_Stryke
There are serial killers active right now.
Technology does not inhibit their desire to kill and, despite what TV shows, there are tons of unsolved murders. I believe that 40-50% of murders go unsolved nationally.
Technology does not inhibit their desire to kill and, despite what TV shows, there are tons of unsolved murders. I believe that 40-50% of murders go unsolved nationally.
Posted on 3/1/20 at 9:22 am to Lucky_Stryke
You make it seem like serial killers can't use technology. While they're all insane, almost all are very smart. I think they can figure it out to their advantage.
This thread is so fricking stupid btw.
This thread is so fricking stupid btw.
Posted on 3/1/20 at 9:31 am to Lucky_Stryke
I feel like what you’re getting at is that a serial killer may not get the same level of notoriety of the ones mentioned in the OP, and I think you might be right. It seems like the national media has made a concerted effort to not sensationalize recent serial killers as they have done in the past. Same goes for mass shooters.
However there are definitely still serial killers killing.
However there are definitely still serial killers killing.
Posted on 3/1/20 at 9:32 am to dchog
Serial type killers still exist, but the thing is that I doubt we'll see very many with kill counts like Bundy, Golden State Killer or Green River Killer. It's way too hard to get away with it for the following reasons:
1) DNA has advanced so much that they can pull DNA from almost anything, even surfaces the suspect merely touched. In the early days of DNA, you needed large blood or semen samples, etc. Now even skin cells can be used.
2) Crime databases. These computerized databases didn't exist in the old days. Now all police departments are interconnected and communicate. It is hard to pull of a crime in one state then move to another and continue your spree. Cops are doing a much better job connecting killings across states thanks to the internet. Also suspects can't skip town and expect to go unnoticed in another state if they turn up there. In the old days you could be wanted for murder in one state, get arrested in another, and get out on bail before they realized you're wanted for murder. That type of thing never happens now. Even police in BFE Louisiana have immediate access to who's wanted in NYC for instance.
3) Surveillance. In the old days cameras were rare or didn't exist at all (maybe banks had them and that was it). Nowadays you can't go anywhere without being on tape in a dozen places. Makes it much easier for police to monitor a crime scene or dump site for possible suspects and suspect vehicles. And with computerized databases, makes it much easier (and faster) for them to match up a vehicle with a person.
4) Cell phones. Makes it easier for a victim to be tracked. Even if the killer takes the phone away immediately, well the police still know exactly when and where the victim was kidnapped (by pinging the towers) which will help greatly with piecing things together. There's also a good chance another citizen might see something suspicious and get it on camera. Everyone has a 4k camera in his pocket.
5) Genealogy databases. These are the new thing. Numerous high profile murders have been solved in the past couple years using this technique (the big one was the Golden State Killer/Original Nightstalker). Even if the killer never submits his DNA to a genealogy company, chances are someone in his family has. And if they have, the killer is almost certainly busted. DNA has advanced to the point where they can match a killer's profile to a relative and tell how far removed that relative is (cousin, etc.) If you know who the killer's cousins or uncles are, it's easy to find the killer.
1) DNA has advanced so much that they can pull DNA from almost anything, even surfaces the suspect merely touched. In the early days of DNA, you needed large blood or semen samples, etc. Now even skin cells can be used.
2) Crime databases. These computerized databases didn't exist in the old days. Now all police departments are interconnected and communicate. It is hard to pull of a crime in one state then move to another and continue your spree. Cops are doing a much better job connecting killings across states thanks to the internet. Also suspects can't skip town and expect to go unnoticed in another state if they turn up there. In the old days you could be wanted for murder in one state, get arrested in another, and get out on bail before they realized you're wanted for murder. That type of thing never happens now. Even police in BFE Louisiana have immediate access to who's wanted in NYC for instance.
3) Surveillance. In the old days cameras were rare or didn't exist at all (maybe banks had them and that was it). Nowadays you can't go anywhere without being on tape in a dozen places. Makes it much easier for police to monitor a crime scene or dump site for possible suspects and suspect vehicles. And with computerized databases, makes it much easier (and faster) for them to match up a vehicle with a person.
4) Cell phones. Makes it easier for a victim to be tracked. Even if the killer takes the phone away immediately, well the police still know exactly when and where the victim was kidnapped (by pinging the towers) which will help greatly with piecing things together. There's also a good chance another citizen might see something suspicious and get it on camera. Everyone has a 4k camera in his pocket.
5) Genealogy databases. These are the new thing. Numerous high profile murders have been solved in the past couple years using this technique (the big one was the Golden State Killer/Original Nightstalker). Even if the killer never submits his DNA to a genealogy company, chances are someone in his family has. And if they have, the killer is almost certainly busted. DNA has advanced to the point where they can match a killer's profile to a relative and tell how far removed that relative is (cousin, etc.) If you know who the killer's cousins or uncles are, it's easy to find the killer.
Posted on 3/1/20 at 9:53 am to AUstar
I would have agreed but for a current missing child. A little girl, less than two years old was last seen by someone outside of her family Dec.10 or 11. She wasn't reported missing until mid February.
With all the surveillance equipment out there, she remains disappeared.
With all the surveillance equipment out there, she remains disappeared.
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