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re: Will Smith Murder Trial-Guilty of manslaughter and attempted manslaughter

Posted on 12/11/16 at 4:34 pm to
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 12/11/16 at 4:34 pm to
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Because he was afraid.


afraid of what?

He just went through a whole confrontation involving guys yelling racial expletives with his shirt off, 6'4" 280lb Will Smith confronting him, among other things, and all of a sudden he was afraid because Will Smith was "going sit in his car"?

this is your silly theory?
This post was edited on 12/11/16 at 4:37 pm
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 12/11/16 at 4:34 pm to
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TigahJay


tnx
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 12/11/16 at 4:35 pm to
Can anyone link the twitter account of the expert who discussed the braking per the computer info of WS and CH??

I'm so damn glad I'm not on this jury and have to remember crap. Why should they deliberate and come to a conclusion based on their memory??? I really don't get why they can't take notes.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 12/11/16 at 4:36 pm to
Did they wake that juror before reading the instructions?
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
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Posted on 12/11/16 at 4:37 pm to
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Good, so you admit that Smith was not facing his vehicle. That means he couldn't possibly have been reaching for his weapon.




you dont' have to be directly facing your vehicle in order to reach into it. Think about how you've gotten into a car your whole life.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 12/11/16 at 4:38 pm to
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Because he was afraid. I find that unreasonable. Dude should pay for his miscalculation.


This is where i am at. The facts dont support that he did this out of rage. I think he got put in a tense situation and his mind played tricks on him. Without any witnesses saying smith said gun and the fact that his testimony didnt match with some of the evidence i say manslaughter.
Posted by BayouBengal6884
Lafourche Parish
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 12/11/16 at 4:38 pm to
I don't get into my car backwards
So why would he reach for his gun with his back to the open door
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 12/11/16 at 4:39 pm to
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but you dont think Smith hit Hayes 1st.




Based on the evidence no I don't think Smith hit Hayes, not saying he didn't, I just have my doubts that he did. The video doesn't convince me.

quote:

da frick would he ram Smith for if he didnt hit him first


Is slamming into the back of another vehicle hard enough to blow out the back window and shooting someone in the back 8 times a proper response to someone tapping your bumper?
Posted by Lester Earl
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 12/11/16 at 4:39 pm to
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I don't get into my car backwards
So why would he reach for his gun with his back to the open door



you can reach into your doorway facing it, with your left side facing it, or your right side facing it.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
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Posted on 12/11/16 at 4:39 pm to
Does it really matter whether he gets murder 2 or manslaughter?
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
48067 posts
Posted on 12/11/16 at 4:41 pm to
The gun could be in a pocket in the door. Regardless, with the evidence presented I would need someone to have corroborated smith saying he was getting a gun.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 12/11/16 at 4:41 pm to
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this is your silly theory?


I don't have a theory. I'm evaluating evidence introduced at court.

Evidence that his wife calmed him and walked him back to his vehicle.

You have a theory. You are basing your theories on evidence witnessed by you on youtube, to fit your agenda.
Posted by BayouBengal6884
Lafourche Parish
Member since Dec 2013
618 posts
Posted on 12/11/16 at 4:42 pm to
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you can reach into your doorway facing it, with your left side facing it, or your right side facing it.


But neither of those is with your back facing it
Posted by tLSU
Member since Oct 2007
8687 posts
Posted on 12/11/16 at 4:42 pm to
They were all awake and paying attention to Laura. Very diff type of argument, and 45 min.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
291240 posts
Posted on 12/11/16 at 4:42 pm to
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Is slamming into the back of another vehicle hard enough to blow out the back window and shooting someone in the back 8 times a proper response to someone tapping your bumper?




If you think that was his motive for killing him, Hayes would have shot Smith right after exiting his vehicle. Yet all the witnesses that say Hayes labeled him as calm during the exchange


quote:

Based on the evidence no I don't think Smith hit Hayes, not saying he didn't, I just have my doubts that he did. The video doesn't convince me.




Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
291240 posts
Posted on 12/11/16 at 4:43 pm to
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But neither of those is with your back facing it



if your back is to an open driver side door, your left side is facing the door entry.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
48067 posts
Posted on 12/11/16 at 4:43 pm to
Why do you keep insinuating about the back glass being broken? Are you familiar with how flat the back of a g63 is? Are you familiar with how high the front of a hummer is? Didnt the expert say the collision occured at 18 mph? How many back glasses have you seen get busted out in 18 mph wrecks?
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 12/11/16 at 4:44 pm to
It's ashame because I think if Hayes would have hired a better more competent attorney he would get off.

I just don't see that happening.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 12/11/16 at 4:44 pm to
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I would need someone to have corroborated smith saying he was getting a gun.


HAYES DID NOT TESTIFY THAT HE SHOIT BECAUSE WILL WAS GETTING A GUN!!!!!!

HE TESTIFIED THAT WILL SHOT THE GUN AT HIM!!!!

NOBODY corroborated many items in CH testimony. It came across as complete fiction. I think he overplayed his hand claiming that WS shot that gun.

NOT one single person corroborated that Will Shot anything.

Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
291240 posts
Posted on 12/11/16 at 4:45 pm to
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You have a theory. You are basing your theories on evidence witnessed by you on youtube, to fit your agenda.




huh? there are witnesses that said they heard Will Smith mention retrieving his gun.

Yet you just said he might be going to sit in his car to call the police. All while he just committed a H & R & running a red light with a blood alcohol level 2x the legal limit. Dude wanted nothing to do with the police.
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