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re: Will Smith Murder Trial-Guilty of manslaughter and attempted manslaughter
Posted on 12/8/16 at 5:35 pm to ihometiger
Posted on 12/8/16 at 5:35 pm to ihometiger
quote:
Ramon Antonio Vargas ?@RVargasAdvocate 58s59 seconds ago
J. Fuller: Y'all were getting videos to protect Billy Ceravolo instead of getting video that could be important to a self-defense claim.
wow
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 5:35 pm to ihometiger
Caresse Jackman ?@CaresseJ 1m1 minute ago
Fuller: You'd agree that the first video of accident, wasn't recovered by law enforcement, but by the media??
Det: I believe that's correct.
Ramon Antonio Vargas ?@RVargasAdvocate 1m1 minute ago
J. Fuller again reminding everyone that the media found video of Cardell Hayes' car being 1st struck by Smith's car before the police did.
Ramon Antonio Vargas ?@RVargasAdvocate 4m4 minutes ago
J. Fuller: Y'all were getting videos to protect Billy Ceravolo instead of getting video that could be important to a self-defense claim.
Ramon Antonio Vargas ?@RVargasAdvocate 20s20 seconds ago
Brueggeman says he doesn't consider the 1st crash on Magazine St. to be a collision. 'Just, something happened. A jerking of the brakes.'
Fuller: You'd agree that the first video of accident, wasn't recovered by law enforcement, but by the media??
Det: I believe that's correct.
Ramon Antonio Vargas ?@RVargasAdvocate 1m1 minute ago
J. Fuller again reminding everyone that the media found video of Cardell Hayes' car being 1st struck by Smith's car before the police did.
Ramon Antonio Vargas ?@RVargasAdvocate 4m4 minutes ago
J. Fuller: Y'all were getting videos to protect Billy Ceravolo instead of getting video that could be important to a self-defense claim.
Ramon Antonio Vargas ?@RVargasAdvocate 20s20 seconds ago
Brueggeman says he doesn't consider the 1st crash on Magazine St. to be a collision. 'Just, something happened. A jerking of the brakes.'
Posted on 12/8/16 at 5:36 pm to ihometiger
Ramon Antonio Vargas ?@RVargasAdvocate 5s6 seconds ago
J. Fuller has Brueggeman say there were minor rub marks on the back of Hayes' car. Could be explained by 1st collision on Mag. St., says B.
J. Fuller has Brueggeman say there were minor rub marks on the back of Hayes' car. Could be explained by 1st collision on Mag. St., says B.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 5:36 pm to ihometiger
quote:
Ramon Antonio Vargas ?@RVargasAdvocate 20s20 seconds ago
Brueggeman says he doesn't consider the 1st crash on Magazine St. to be a collision. 'Just, something happened. A jerking of the brakes.'
is he is a vehicular crash specialist?
quote:
Ramon Antonio Vargas ?@RVargasAdvocate 5s6 seconds ago J. Fuller has Brueggeman say there were minor rub marks on the back of Hayes' car. Could be explained by 1st collision on Mag. St., says B.
thats a collision not jerking of brakes
This post was edited on 12/8/16 at 5:37 pm
Posted on 12/8/16 at 5:37 pm to ihometiger
Caresse Jackman ?@CaresseJ 23s23 seconds ago
Fuller: After the minor accident, my client pulls over.
Detective: Yes he does.
Fuller: After the minor accident, my client pulls over.
Detective: Yes he does.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 5:37 pm to ihometiger
Ramon Antonio Vargas ?@RVargasAdvocate 10s11 seconds ago
J. Fuller having Brueggeman say the right thing to do is pull over after a collision. It's established Smith drove away from the tap on Mag.
J. Fuller having Brueggeman say the right thing to do is pull over after a collision. It's established Smith drove away from the tap on Mag.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 5:37 pm to Nado Jenkins83
quote:
Fuller shouting, accuses Brueggeman of getting vids first o protect Billy Ceravolo, instead of probing Hayes' self-defense claim.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 5:38 pm to Mr. Hangover
Don't recall anyone saying that they know Hayes. I do remember tigress calling the judge by her first name and saying that they are friends since 1st grade.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 5:38 pm to GRIZZ
whats really funny is the NOPD is so corrupt you never know
Posted on 12/8/16 at 5:39 pm to ihometiger
John Simerman ?@johnsimerman 1m1 minute ago
Brueggeman noted minor rub marks on mounted spare tire at back of Hayes' SUV. Brueggeman said couldn't conclude came from Smith's SUV.
Ramon Antonio Vargas ?@RVargasAdvocate 16s16 seconds ago
J. Fuller having Brueggeman say that video shows Hayes' Hummer's brake lights came on before 2nd collision, preceding Smith's shooting.
Ramon Antonio Vargas ?@RVargasAdvocate 19s19 seconds ago
J. Fuller has Brueggeman say the only way those lights come on is by pressing the brakes, not the accelerator. If the accel. does that...
Caresse Jackman ?@CaresseJ 3m3 minutes ago
Fuller: You got a lot of experience. What's the proper thing to do after an accident.
Det: Pull over and exchange info with one another.
Caresse Jackman ?@CaresseJ 26s26 seconds ago
Fuller: The 2nd collision, again what is the right thing for all parties to do?
Detective: Stop and exchange info.
Brueggeman noted minor rub marks on mounted spare tire at back of Hayes' SUV. Brueggeman said couldn't conclude came from Smith's SUV.
Ramon Antonio Vargas ?@RVargasAdvocate 16s16 seconds ago
J. Fuller having Brueggeman say that video shows Hayes' Hummer's brake lights came on before 2nd collision, preceding Smith's shooting.
Ramon Antonio Vargas ?@RVargasAdvocate 19s19 seconds ago
J. Fuller has Brueggeman say the only way those lights come on is by pressing the brakes, not the accelerator. If the accel. does that...
Caresse Jackman ?@CaresseJ 3m3 minutes ago
Fuller: You got a lot of experience. What's the proper thing to do after an accident.
Det: Pull over and exchange info with one another.
Caresse Jackman ?@CaresseJ 26s26 seconds ago
Fuller: The 2nd collision, again what is the right thing for all parties to do?
Detective: Stop and exchange info.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 5:41 pm to ihometiger
Caresse Jackman ?@CaresseJ 29s30 seconds ago
Fuller: If you are involved in a hit-and-run. What info would you try and get.
Det: Tag #, description of vehicle.
Ramon Antonio Vargas ?@RVargasAdvocate 1m1 minute ago
... then you want your car checked, says Brueggeman. Fuller seeking to attack allegation that Hayes meant to hit Smith on 2nd car collision.
Danny Monteverde ?@DCMonteverde 1m1 minute ago
JF: Ever press the gas and your brake lights come on, detective?
BB: If that happens you have a problem.
JF: Might need to go to Midas.
Caresse Jackman ?@CaresseJ 37s37 seconds ago
Fuller: Would the appropriate thing to be for a driver to get out and charge at the other driver.
Det: No, that would be the wrong thing.
Fuller: If you are involved in a hit-and-run. What info would you try and get.
Det: Tag #, description of vehicle.
Ramon Antonio Vargas ?@RVargasAdvocate 1m1 minute ago
... then you want your car checked, says Brueggeman. Fuller seeking to attack allegation that Hayes meant to hit Smith on 2nd car collision.
Danny Monteverde ?@DCMonteverde 1m1 minute ago
JF: Ever press the gas and your brake lights come on, detective?
BB: If that happens you have a problem.
JF: Might need to go to Midas.
Caresse Jackman ?@CaresseJ 37s37 seconds ago
Fuller: Would the appropriate thing to be for a driver to get out and charge at the other driver.
Det: No, that would be the wrong thing.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 5:42 pm to TigerFred
quote:
Don't recall anyone saying that they know Hayes. I do remember tigress calling the judge by her first name and saying that they are friends since 1st grade.
It was either Chad or bencoleman claiming that anyone who didn't think Hayes should be executed without a trial MUST be friends with them. Lester Earl was one of the more vocal persons in this camp in the initial threads so it was a running joke that he was either friends with or related to Hayes.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 5:42 pm to ihometiger
Caresse Jackman ?@CaresseJ 43s44 seconds ago
Det: We don't need something leading up to today. It could lead to violence. Especially in the south. People carry weapons.
Det: We don't need something leading up to today. It could lead to violence. Especially in the south. People carry weapons.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 5:43 pm to ihometiger
Donald Chick Foret ?@chickforet 3m3 minutes ago
Fuller once again makes an attempt at a silly joke and once again he gets absolutely no response from the jury.
This isn't good for the Hayes camp.
Fuller once again makes an attempt at a silly joke and once again he gets absolutely no response from the jury.
This isn't good for the Hayes camp.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 5:44 pm to ihometiger
John Simerman ?@johnsimerman 2m2 minutes ago
JF asks Det. if right thing is to start fight after crash: "That would be the wrong thing to do. That's how we end up in a day like today."
JF asks Det. if right thing is to start fight after crash: "That would be the wrong thing to do. That's how we end up in a day like today."
Posted on 12/8/16 at 5:45 pm to ihometiger
Ramon Antonio Vargas ?@RVargasAdvocate 55s55 seconds ago
Brueggeman says the info he had was that Will Smith and his companions came toward Hayes' car.
Ramon Antonio Vargas ?@RVargasAdvocate 1m1 minute ago
Brueggeman concedes he had no info Cardell Hayes needed to be restrained.
Brueggeman says the info he had was that Will Smith and his companions came toward Hayes' car.
Ramon Antonio Vargas ?@RVargasAdvocate 1m1 minute ago
Brueggeman concedes he had no info Cardell Hayes needed to be restrained.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 5:45 pm to ihometiger
quote:
John Simerman ?@johnsimerman 2m2 minutes ago JF asks Det. if right thing is to start fight after crash: "That would be the wrong thing to do. That's how we end up in a day like today."
Music to Fuller's ears right there.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 5:47 pm to GRIZZ
John Simerman ?@johnsimerman 2m2 minutes ago
Brueggeman acknowledges only people needed to be restrained were Hernandez, Will Smith and another man. Not Cardell Hayes.
This suggests the guy with the tattoos was the 3rd idiot charging at Hayes & ONeal.
Brueggeman acknowledges only people needed to be restrained were Hernandez, Will Smith and another man. Not Cardell Hayes.
This suggests the guy with the tattoos was the 3rd idiot charging at Hayes & ONeal.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 5:49 pm to ihometiger
quote:Man.
John Simerman ?@johnsimerman 2m2 minutes ago
Brueggeman acknowledges only people needed to be restrained were Hernandez, Will Smith and another man. Not Cardell Hayes.
I will once again say I think Hayes walks
Posted on 12/8/16 at 5:49 pm to TigerFred
We were talking about back in April Fred
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