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Will people look back on today's film composers like we do on Mozart and Beethov
Posted on 1/16/17 at 10:10 am
Posted on 1/16/17 at 10:10 am
Like Ennio Moricone or John Williams. People tend to forget that a lot of the more famous classical music was made for plays and operas.
Posted on 1/16/17 at 10:12 am to athenslife101
Those two -especially Moricone- maybe a little...otherwise, no.
(and I love me some Hans Zimmer)
(and I love me some Hans Zimmer)
Posted on 1/16/17 at 10:16 am to athenslife101
Air and Simple Gifts was an instant classic, so yes.
ETA: Danny Elfman will go down as the GOAT composer.
ETA: Danny Elfman will go down as the GOAT composer.
This post was edited on 1/16/17 at 10:17 am
Posted on 1/16/17 at 10:17 am to athenslife101
In my college music appreciation class the last musical period we covered was contemporary/modern. Several of the works and composers discussed were part of the Broadway musical scene (e.g. Bernstein).
Personally, I think that the art form has transitioned from the symphony and concert halls to the big screen. However, I can see how purists might view modern composers as sell-outs or "commercial" in the sense that recording artists are branded as such depending on their success and the types of crowds they appeal to.
However, as great as John Williams is, I doubt he will ever possess the reverence and influential clout that Mozart, Bach, Beethoven, Tchaikovsky, Stravinsky, Strauss, Wagner, etc., held. Most of this has to do with the fact that they were innovators and geniuses in an era where music was not nearly as universal in terms of entertainment and accessibility, apart from folk.
Personally, I think that the art form has transitioned from the symphony and concert halls to the big screen. However, I can see how purists might view modern composers as sell-outs or "commercial" in the sense that recording artists are branded as such depending on their success and the types of crowds they appeal to.
However, as great as John Williams is, I doubt he will ever possess the reverence and influential clout that Mozart, Bach, Beethoven, Tchaikovsky, Stravinsky, Strauss, Wagner, etc., held. Most of this has to do with the fact that they were innovators and geniuses in an era where music was not nearly as universal in terms of entertainment and accessibility, apart from folk.
This post was edited on 1/16/17 at 10:25 am
Posted on 1/16/17 at 10:27 am to saint amant steve
Williams and Morricone will.
Others that have come before from the 50s & 60s that did movie scores already are well known classical composers. (Bernard Herrmann / Elmer Bernstein / Sergei Prokofiev)
Bach / Mozart / Beethoven just have a head start.
In a larger sense, over time, only the best works will be remembered. Will Williams & Morricone be remembered?
Without question. Salieri, not so much.....
Others that have come before from the 50s & 60s that did movie scores already are well known classical composers. (Bernard Herrmann / Elmer Bernstein / Sergei Prokofiev)
Bach / Mozart / Beethoven just have a head start.
In a larger sense, over time, only the best works will be remembered. Will Williams & Morricone be remembered?
Without question. Salieri, not so much.....
Posted on 1/16/17 at 10:29 am to athenslife101
Papa Roach will be renowned for generations to come
Posted on 1/16/17 at 10:33 am to athenslife101
mozart and Beethoven were more original and trailblazers just by being born earlier and will always have a much high status.
Posted on 1/16/17 at 12:02 pm to athenslife101
An interesting question.
Erich Wolfgang Korngold was perhaps the most important film composer in the history of Hollywood. Almost all modern film composers are standing on his shoulders in some way (particularly John Williams). His Violin Concerto in D gets performed because it requires a virtuoso to play and audiences like it; but most violinists I've spoken to can't stand the piece (for the record, I think they're wrong to despise it so). He also wrote some brilliant chamber works for strings, but those are not well known, unfortunately. Korngold's detractors like to savor the criticism that his music is "more corn than gold," and my honest opinion is that they're being pedantic ninnies by saying that. Korngold was an innovator in his own right, and there's plenty of genius to enjoy in both his film works and his classical repertoire. But my opinion is in the minority.
Aaron Copland, who is regarded as America's foremost native-born composer, gained some notoriety for his film scores, most notably Of Mice and Men. But he had a much larger body of classical work outside the film industry, and is credited with creating a uniquely American sounding style of composition.
I think highly of John Williams, and believe that his gifts as an orchestrator (not a composer) are equal to those of the likes of Ravel or Rimsky-Korsakov, but I doubt he'll be ever have the high regard Mozart or Beethoven do, since they were both vitally important to the evolution of Western music.
I'm a little less familiar with Morricone's work. I read that he has written over 100 classical works apart from his film score repertoire -- I'll have to give them a listen.
Erich Wolfgang Korngold was perhaps the most important film composer in the history of Hollywood. Almost all modern film composers are standing on his shoulders in some way (particularly John Williams). His Violin Concerto in D gets performed because it requires a virtuoso to play and audiences like it; but most violinists I've spoken to can't stand the piece (for the record, I think they're wrong to despise it so). He also wrote some brilliant chamber works for strings, but those are not well known, unfortunately. Korngold's detractors like to savor the criticism that his music is "more corn than gold," and my honest opinion is that they're being pedantic ninnies by saying that. Korngold was an innovator in his own right, and there's plenty of genius to enjoy in both his film works and his classical repertoire. But my opinion is in the minority.
Aaron Copland, who is regarded as America's foremost native-born composer, gained some notoriety for his film scores, most notably Of Mice and Men. But he had a much larger body of classical work outside the film industry, and is credited with creating a uniquely American sounding style of composition.
I think highly of John Williams, and believe that his gifts as an orchestrator (not a composer) are equal to those of the likes of Ravel or Rimsky-Korsakov, but I doubt he'll be ever have the high regard Mozart or Beethoven do, since they were both vitally important to the evolution of Western music.
I'm a little less familiar with Morricone's work. I read that he has written over 100 classical works apart from his film score repertoire -- I'll have to give them a listen.
This post was edited on 1/16/17 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 1/16/17 at 12:05 pm to athenslife101
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