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re: Widening Highways Never Fixes Traffic. But Darnit, It Did in Texas

Posted on 4/25/16 at 6:57 pm to
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/25/16 at 6:57 pm to
An inefficient system with less cars will still move more quickly than an inefficient system with more cars. Plus, moving more cars from the inefficient system to the more efficient system increases, well, efficiency.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 4/25/16 at 7:00 pm to
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An inefficient system with less cars will still move more quickly than an inefficient system with more cars. Plus, moving more cars from the inefficient system to the more efficient system increases, well, efficiency.



Fair enough. I guess the crux of the argument is whether or not there are enough lanes in the first place, and if there are, you should look into efficiency improvements before you jump to volume increases. Obviously there are a certain amount of lanes that are a requirement or I-10 would be 1 lane throughout.
Posted by jennyjones
New Orleans Saints Fan
Member since Apr 2006
9995 posts
Posted on 4/25/16 at 7:13 pm to
Steers and queers
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74883 posts
Posted on 4/25/16 at 7:25 pm to
If it's state workers it's just hourly pay, but if it's third party, you would think $60-100 an hour per truck idle time pay.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
61325 posts
Posted on 4/25/16 at 7:34 pm to
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What was actually retarded is your post. Good lord.


Ok. Explain to me how a limited number of "thing A" magically becomes infinite when "thing B" has no limit?

There's a curve here somewhere. We only have 4 million in the state total so if we widen the roads to 10 lanes congestion decreases somewhere. It's called math.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
85525 posts
Posted on 4/25/16 at 7:51 pm to
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until all this new concrete causes flooding where you didn't have it before. But that's a discussion for another thread (*cough* Houston *cough*).

You ain't lying about that. Saw this in action last week in Houston.
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33653 posts
Posted on 4/25/16 at 7:52 pm to
Adding capacity does increase MOEs such as speed and vph. But, it's only as effective as the next restriction "bottleneck" down stream. Capacity added to intersection approaches does help immensely.

The capacity addition westbound I-12 out of BR worked, but it goes back to the restrictions being further downstream and traffic volumes bleeding off along that stretch.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 4/25/16 at 7:58 pm to
Libs hate highways and then absolutely masturbate over trains that go limited places.

You can do both by the way. DFW does.
Posted by crazycubes
Member since Jan 2016
5256 posts
Posted on 4/25/16 at 8:05 pm to
Eh, there are two small dams on the west side of town that were built in the 40's back when the west side of Houston was prairie
Posted by MyNameIsNobody
Member since Dec 2013
1231 posts
Posted on 4/25/16 at 9:00 pm to
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Frick texas


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