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re: Why you should hope life isn't found in space: The Fermi Paradox / Great Filter
Posted on 11/13/14 at 10:38 pm to Scruffy
Posted on 11/13/14 at 10:38 pm to Scruffy
which is why most people think the only way to travel through vast amounts of space is to warp space itself.
Probably will never see it in my lifetime though. Theoretically plausible though.
Probably will never see it in my lifetime though. Theoretically plausible though.
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Posted on 11/13/14 at 10:39 pm to Napoleon
quote:Yep.
which is why most people think the only way to travel through vast amounts of space is to warp space itself.
quote:Nope.
Probably will never see it in my lifetime though.
Posted on 11/13/14 at 10:54 pm to weagle99
This is incredibly stupid.
Just because we find complex life out there does not mean the this Great Filter is ahead of us. There are billions of stars. Think about that, billions of STARS. Think of the satellites orbiting each of those stars and think of all the possibilities for life. There is a very high probability that, even if this Great Filter is extremely hard to overcome, that it has been overcome more than once.
Just because we find complex life out there does not mean the this Great Filter is ahead of us. There are billions of stars. Think about that, billions of STARS. Think of the satellites orbiting each of those stars and think of all the possibilities for life. There is a very high probability that, even if this Great Filter is extremely hard to overcome, that it has been overcome more than once.
Posted on 11/13/14 at 11:03 pm to weagle99
On the point of radio wave communication, someone hit it, a quantum machine could send messages instantly through S-T...which could not be intercepted.
Think about it, 2 billion years and only 150ish will be spent radiating the galaxy with classic rock. The window in any advanced civilization for radio waves would be small...hobby at best. We are already moving to visible light communication.
Think about it, 2 billion years and only 150ish will be spent radiating the galaxy with classic rock. The window in any advanced civilization for radio waves would be small...hobby at best. We are already moving to visible light communication.
Posted on 11/13/14 at 11:06 pm to arcalades
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How would said life have survived flying through space on a rock? No food or oxygen. How would that life have survived entry into the earth's atmosphere? if it beat that trillion to one odds, how would it have survived crashing to earth? the odds of life coming into contact with Earth are no better than a gazillion to one. It's absurd far more than any number could calculate.
It is only a theory just as any other. The theory states that extremophiles exist on debris floating around in space. Read about panspermia. I believe it is a more credible theory thn life spontaneously occurring on earth.
Posted on 11/13/14 at 11:21 pm to Napoleon
Whatever the possible answer is, in all the vastness of infinite possibilities one and only one thing is certain:
The answer will not be determined on motherfricking Tigerdroppings.com.
The answer will not be determined on motherfricking Tigerdroppings.com.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 7:38 am to DanTiger
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life spontaneously occurring on earth.
The earth is believed to have been formed a billion years before life came about. Why do you think life would have just spontaneously happened? It makes more sense that various levels of organization occurred for millenia until crude organisms were formed.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 7:55 am to weagle99
Posted on 11/14/14 at 8:06 am to ItNeverRains
if you created a species...how much would you interact with it...just a thought
Posted on 11/14/14 at 8:06 am to Scruffy
quote:Did you get that info from TripAdvisor???
Our galaxy is 100,000-200,000 light years across. Anyone traveling through the galaxy has to move around it since you are unable to travel through the center.
quote:I'm not convinced there is intelligent life on Earth....
to claim that there is or isn't intelligent life in the galaxy besides us.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 8:14 am to weagle99
One important aspect in talking about probability of intelligent life is the concept of deep time. This is one that does consider it, which is good.
Everyone needs to consider that we may not share the same space because we probably won't the same time as other intelligent beings because civilzations come and go and a million years and a billion years is a very very long time.
Everyone needs to consider that we may not share the same space because we probably won't the same time as other intelligent beings because civilzations come and go and a million years and a billion years is a very very long time.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 8:19 am to LSURussian
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I'm not convinced there is intelligent life on Earth....
I think most people are behind the filter.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 8:20 am to weagle99
I think it's another stupid thought game from a philosopher who thinks his shite don't stink.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 8:23 am to Pectus
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Everyone needs to consider that we may not share the same space because we probably won't the same time as other intelligent beings because civilzations come and go and a million years and a billion years is a very very long time.
yep
a planet could have been formed, life begins, thrives for millions of years, planet get destroys, and we could miss that planet by a billion years
Posted on 11/14/14 at 8:24 am to Salmon
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yep
a planet could have been formed, life begins, thrives for millions of years, planet get destroys, and we could miss that planet by a billion years
But at the same time... with an inconceivable amount of universes and solar systems and planets out there, odds are there is intelligent life. Odds are they will never be able to contact us and we will never be able to contact them.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 8:26 am to LSUBoo
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odds are there is intelligent life
no doubt
quote:
Odds are they will never be able to contact us and we will never be able to contact them.
which really sucks
Posted on 11/14/14 at 8:30 am to weagle99
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if we were to find fossilized complex life on Mars, Bostrom says “it would be by far the worst news ever printed on a newspaper cover,” because it would mean The Great Filter is almost definitely ahead of us—ultimately dooming the species.
I guess I'm a big dummy when it comes to the topic...but in layman's term wtf does this mean exactly?
Posted on 11/14/14 at 8:33 am to WG_Dawg
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but in layman's term wtf does this mean exactly?
it would mean that we haven't reached the Great Filter and our days are numbered as species
Posted on 11/14/14 at 8:33 am to weagle99
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The Great Filter is almost definitely ahead of us—ultimately dooming the species
as long as this does not happen before duck season...
IDGAF
Posted on 11/14/14 at 8:33 am to WG_Dawg
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I guess I'm a big dummy when it comes to the topic...but in layman's term wtf does this mean exactly?
It means something that once existed (like us) is now extinct
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