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re: Why would anyone willingly live up north?
Posted on 1/27/15 at 12:33 pm to ksayetiger
Posted on 1/27/15 at 12:33 pm to ksayetiger
In the summertime, up north in New York, Boston, Maine Rhode Island area is a lot better than the heat you put up with down south
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Posted on 1/27/15 at 12:37 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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This thread is a perfect example of people thinking universally based on personal preference. One mans paradise is another's hell.
Well you've been around longer than I have, so you've doubtless seen that this thread crops up (often with the opposite title, though) every couple of months or so. It's human nature to justify and defend the choices we make and denigrate those that don't really make sense to us. Hence, I think there's always a little trolling in these kinds of threads, but I honestly don't know why anyone would choose to live in the deep south outside of family affinity/non-relocatable job/no other choice. As a region, we trail in almost everything good and lead in almost everything bad (cost of living being the South's greatest offering, IMO)
Posted on 1/27/15 at 12:41 pm to Navytiger74
quote:As a life long resident of Baton Rouge this boggles my mind as well. Northern suburbs are like paradise and everything is so clean!! I'd move to Columbus, OH right now if I were able.
but I honestly don't know why anyone would choose to live in the deep south outside of family affinity/non-relocatable job/no other choice.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 12:42 pm to Navytiger74
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Well you've been around longer than I have, so you've doubtless seen that this thread crops up (often with the opposite title, though) every couple of months or so. It's human nature to justify and defend the choices we make and denigrate those that don't really make sense to us. Hence, I think there's always a little trolling in these kinds of threads, but I honestly don't know why anyone would choose to live in the deep south outside of family affinity/non-relocatable job/no other choice. As a region, we trail in almost everything good and lead in almost everything bad (cost of living being the South's greatest offering, IMO)
I think family is the number one reason people cite for living in that region. I've got a brother who's happy as can be living in N.W. La but it's just not my cup o tea. He doesn't travel much, seems content to stay there. He's a CPA and works for one of the Casinos.
You can find good food, fine women, good weather, polite people, outdoor opportunities in other places of the country as well.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 12:43 pm to Navytiger74
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As a region, we trail in almost everything good and lead in almost everything bad (cost of living being the South's greatest offering, IMO)
Or that generally we are the happiest, Louisiana specifically.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 12:43 pm to Navytiger74
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As a region, we trail in almost everything good and lead in almost everything bad (cost of living being the South's greatest offering, IMO)
Seems like a stretch, no? Obviously our cities and college towns are populated with pretty attractive people. The south has long contributed heavily to American art, literature and music. Same for cuisine. Significant outdoor diversity that is probably second only to the west. In the competition for best coastlines in America. Increasingly attractive to growth industries and relocating companies.
There are plenty of things the South is bad at, at a very broad level. But people like you and I really won't notice because the areas we tend to live in don't have many of those characteristics.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 1:02 pm to SoDakHawk
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probably Twin Cities area over by Stillwater and the St. Croix Valley, but possibly to the Duluth area. Brainerd would be nice too.
Twin Cities, yes
Stillwater, yes
St. Croix Valley, yes
Duluth, hit or miss, Grand Marais or Two Harbors though
Brainerd, ugh, it is a giant meth house
Posted on 1/27/15 at 1:03 pm to Pettifogger
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Seems like a stretch, no? Obviously our cities and college towns are populated with pretty attractive people. The south has long contributed heavily to American art, literature and music.
I'm talking more about measurables. There are treasure troves of culture and history in some historic cities in the south (NO, Chattanooga, Nashville, Memphis, Charleston, ATL, etc). But when it comes to weather, crime, education, job market, hell STDs, etc., we trail. That's not a stretch. And it's not new. And if being to all four corners of the US and many places in between has taught me anything, it's that there is no shortage of "outdoors" anywhere in the US. We really are a massive and relatively empty country. So I don't really get the draw there either. Outdoors in NW Washington and upstate New York were as nice as anywhere I've been in Louisiana.
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Posted on 1/27/15 at 1:11 pm to Navytiger74
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I'm talking more about measurables. There are treasure troves of culture and history in some historic cities in the south (NO, Chattanooga, Nashville, Memphis, Charleston, ATL, etc). But when it comes to weather, crime, education, job market, hell STDs, etc., we trail. That's not a stretch. And it's not new. And if being to all four corners of the US and many places in between has taught me anything, it's that there is no shortage of "outdoors" anywhere in the US. We really are a massive and relatively empty country. So I don't really get the draw there either. Outdoors in NW Washington and upstate New York were as nice as anywhere I've been in Louisiana.
Not sure about weather and jobs, but it depends on what you're comparing. I'd never trade mid Atlantic weather for the south, and I'm not sure what measurable you could provide to indicate it is objectively better.
DC, for example, is not that great weather-wise, at least to me. It's hot and swampy in the summer, with occasional snow insanity in the winter. I love DC, but I don't think weather is an attribute in comparison to the deep south.
As for outdoor activities, I'm just saying it is a solid attribute. But then, I prefer Atlanta to Louisiana in that regard (for proximity to GSMNP, good beaches, NGA mountains and fishing, Outer Banks, etc.). Upstate NY is beautiful, but I'd argue our outdoor diversity is better. I don't argue the South is better than the west or PNW at all.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 1:12 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
I've been perfectly happy living in Madison, Minneapolis, and Chicago for my entire life.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 1:13 pm to Navytiger74
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But when it comes to weather, crime, education, job market, hell STDs, etc., we trail.
Weather is where we completely disagree. Job Market is arguable depending on specific location.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 1:15 pm to hoopsgalore
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Madison
damn dirty hippie!
Posted on 1/27/15 at 1:15 pm to Pettifogger
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DC, for example, is not that great weather-wise, at least to me. It's hot and swampy in the summer, with occasional snow insanity in the winter. I love DC, but I don't think weather is an attribute in comparison to the deep south.
DC weather is the worst of both worlds. I bitch about DC/NORVA whenever I get the chance, so it's really not one of the locations I was talking about. I'd take a number of cities in the Deep South over DC anyday (Jacksonville, Tampa, Atlanta, Nashville), but I don't really have a choice in the matter right now.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 1:16 pm to Pettifogger
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Upstate NY is beautiful, but I'd argue our outdoor diversity is better.
The only thing upstate NY doesn't have is access to salt water, the other outdoor opportunities are incredible. Winter or summer. It's a beautiful area.
Upstate Michigan is as well and is really underrated IMO.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 1:16 pm to 777Tiger
Madison is a very liberal city, but it is far from a hippie town. Fair enough, though.
Fair enough, though.Posted on 1/27/15 at 1:18 pm to hoopsgalore
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Madison is a very liberal city, but it is far from a hippie town
jk, I think it's a neat town
Posted on 1/27/15 at 1:22 pm to nicholastiger
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Posted on 1/27/15 at 1:22 pm to Montezuma
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Twin Cities, yes
Stillwater, yes
St. Croix Valley, yes
Duluth, hit or miss, Grand Marais or Two Harbors though
Brainerd, ugh, it is a giant meth house
Included the Brainerd area for the fishing opportunities. Honestly, fishing opportunities and lakefront property is abundent in most of Minnesota.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 1:55 pm to Pettifogger
quote:Wisconsin, right on the lake.
Where in the north? In the south, mid atlantic, upper midwest, new england, etc. is all considered north. To me, there is nothing "clean and nice" about Mid Atlantic cities, Boston, etc. Nor is there anything clean or nice about much of PA, OH cities, etc. That isn't to say there is nothing nice about those areas, I've just never been struck by how clean and nice they are generally.
But, I can see that attaching to parts of NE, the UP, parts of Minnesota and the like.
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