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re: Why will St. George have to pay more for Sheriffs patrol just because they incorporate?

Posted on 9/28/19 at 3:37 pm to
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 3:37 pm to
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Why doesn’t Central have to have its own police? Do they not have enough people?


Because it already has enough police presence and it's a safe area? Why raise taxes to create something you don't need?
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
77751 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 3:38 pm to
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and it's a safe area


Was a safe area. There’s been an uptick in crime the last ten or so years.
Posted by dempeople
Port allen
Member since Sep 2010
428 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 4:17 pm to
This is a typical central answer. Central gets taxed more than 97% of the state, yet they can not afford a full time police department?
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 4:38 pm to
I’m sure some surprise taxes will pop up for the St. George people.
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 4:41 pm to
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yet they can not afford a full time police department?


Again, how will our lives improve if we vote on a new tax to fully fund a police department? Will we finally catch up with Denham Springs?
This post was edited on 9/28/19 at 4:42 pm
Posted by dempeople
Port allen
Member since Sep 2010
428 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 4:46 pm to
If you read my post, I said they are already taxed. There is no reason for any more taxes
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
9484 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 4:49 pm to
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It's all about money and power.


Yes but not in the way you think.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
12462 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 6:46 pm to
My question is why is the city of Baton Rouge so concerned about the potential loss in tax revenue? Yes they would be losing tax revenue, but shouldn't that be offset by the services they no longer have to provide?
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 6:58 pm to
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My question is why is the city of Baton Rouge so concerned about the potential loss in tax revenue?

That's the "50 million tax dollars a year from St. George slushed into the general fund that isn't spent on St. George" question, isn't it?
This post was edited on 9/28/19 at 6:59 pm
Posted by Tigersonfire
Pville
Member since Oct 2018
3027 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 7:07 pm to
Over 75% of St George kids are in private schools. You don't give two shits about schools because the above won't change. Actually the last on the list of St George is schools and that's a FACT but nice try
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37707 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 7:11 pm to
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You don't give two shits about schools because the above won't change. Actually the last on the list of St George is schools and that's a FACT but nice try


Actually, they tried to get an isd FIRST.

And that’s a FACT. But nice try.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 7:12 pm to
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Over 75% of St George kids are in private schools. You don't give two shits about schools because the above won't change. Actually the last on the list of St George is schools and that's a FACT but nice try


This all started because they were shite on when they tried to form their own school district, frickwit.
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Tigersonfire

In your case, fire would be an improvement.
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15755 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 7:35 pm to
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Over 75% of St George kids are in private schools. You don't give two shits about schools because the above won't change. Actually the last on the list of St George is schools and that's a FACT but nice try


So Some parents should feel forced to send their kids to private school because the first schools they pay for are incompetent?

This whole movement began when the area asked for an ISD, were turned down, but told by Broome (when she was in the legislation) and Burrow that they would have to incorporate to get their own school district. Now that they are doing the necessary steps, those with the biggest fear of losing money and power are shitting their pants trying to figure a way to get people to vote against the measure.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
9484 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 7:36 pm to
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But EBRSO does not respond to calls for service or investigate crimes originating inside the city limits. Yet Baton Rouge residents pay property taxes to EBRSO and aren't receiving police coverage from deputies in return.



Yet even writer of article in OP admits tax also goes to parish wide operations:
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About two-thirds of the EBRSO’s $90.7 million operating budget—$65 million to be exact—is funded by a parishwide millage that goes to support not only patrols in unincorporated parts of EBR, like St. George, but parishwide operations that include a central dispatch system, infrastructure and equipment, a property tax division, court system support services and a jail.


How much are EBR courts and the parish jail used out of proportionally by residents within BR?


But they can respond and/or be asked to assist or in case of 2016 shootings 1 be in area & assist & get murdered & 2 others respond to call and be injured including badly injured and still suffering from it.

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Finally, users should consider that EBRSO primarily responds to calls for service in the unincorporated areas of East Baton Rouge Parish. While EBRSO will promptly respond to any call for service anywhere in East Baton Rouge Parish, the police department for the specific municipality usually responds within the city limits. As such, calls for service in sectors located within a municipality will not reflect all law enforcement activity for that area.


https://web.ebrso.org/stats/cad/agreement.php

The above link also makes me wonder exactly what statistics are being used when discussing one station having 1/3 of the calls. Phones are not the best for viewing these kind of reports so I may be missing info, but besides not being clear on who gets the calls for a couple of the geo sectors without sub stations within boundaries that are not in SG but near the sub station mentioned in article just using call ins without explanation is not the best statistic for crime on its own and seems to be a reach pushing an agenda.
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In many cases, the Communications Division receives multiple calls for service concerning one incident. Since it is often not possible to determine if these calls for service identify the same incident, the CAD system tends to list duplicate calls for one incident. As with the nature of the incident type, the on-scene investigation by a deputy and the resulting official record will describe an incident in detail. The user should consider whether similar incidents over a short time period and in close proximity may be duplicate calls...When the Communications Division receives a call for service, this information is taken on face value by Communications Division deputies for the CAD system. The subsequent investigation may reveal the information was false or the incident was, in fact, unfounded. While the official report will reflect these facts, the incident is not changed in the CAD system. As with other potential pitfalls, the user should carefully consider the CAD system data as preliminary in nature and not substantiated by an investigation.


In UCR reporting May 2017 EBRSO had almost 3,500 actual offenses while logging almost 17,000 CAD incident calls including over 10,000 labeled as public assistance.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41759 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 7:36 pm to
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Over 75% of St George kids are in private schools. You don't give two shits about schools because the above won't change. Actually the last on the list of St George is schools and that's a FACT but nice try


You must live in a cave
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
13830 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 7:37 pm to
Exact same service you are getting now. No change
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
13830 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 7:40 pm to
Lakeview is not the only extra security district which residents voted to pay additional property taxes to pay for.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
12462 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 7:49 pm to
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Over 75% of St George kids are in private schools. You don't give two shits about schools because the above won't change. Actually the last on the list of St George is schools and that's a FACT but nice try
That's because they don't really have a viable alternative.
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Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
9484 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 8:03 pm to
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Over 75% of St George kids are in private schools. You don't give two shits about schools because the above won't change. Actually the last on the list of St George is schools and that's a FACT but nice try


Whether or not your statistic is accurate means nothing as you offer nothing to prove they will stay in private if neighborhood schools can one day be offered that are not the failure EBR school district has become. Caring about education is what is pushing a lot of middle class parents to put their kids in private school where past parents with similar income 20 to 30 years ago would not have.

Separating from parish I think basically requires incorporation into a city if rest of parish district doesn’t what to let area go, and it’s not even a guarantee of being able to form one on its own. It just gives it ability to take next step in fight. Even if SG successfully incorporates forming a school district is another future battle & focus appears to be on becoming a city first and taking on fight for schools after.

Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 8:09 pm to
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Separating from parish I think basically requires incorporation into a city if rest of parish district doesn’t what to let area go


You are wrong. There is literally zero legal basis by which incorporation is necessary in order to form an ISD. Please point to the legislation or regulation that says incorporation helps form an ISD.

Incoherent ramblings of Sharon Westin Broom and Regina Burrow don't count unless it's codified into law.
This post was edited on 9/28/19 at 8:11 pm
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