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re: Why so many people are having strokes in their 20s, 30s and 40S?
Posted on 6/4/25 at 3:46 pm to GumboPot
Posted on 6/4/25 at 3:46 pm to GumboPot
quote:thank you
BTW, I hope you are doing better.
quote:yeah ,,shitty what KOTW is going thru,, shitty that fishfighter died
It really sucks you had to go through all that
shitty some of you are bald
But thank you,,it hasn't killed me
yet
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Posted on 6/4/25 at 3:50 pm to GumboPot
It is fat people. Being fat is a risk of stroke by itself. In the right demographics, being fat, on birth control, smoking and sitting all day are also major risks.
Given that we continue to get fat as frick at all age levels and demographics, that's probably the reason. Also COVID was a coagulopathy by itself.
The other major risk factor is the sheer amount of people who have various genetic bleeding disorders. An insane proportion of the population is at risk, especially when you include lifestyle factors.
Given that we continue to get fat as frick at all age levels and demographics, that's probably the reason. Also COVID was a coagulopathy by itself.
The other major risk factor is the sheer amount of people who have various genetic bleeding disorders. An insane proportion of the population is at risk, especially when you include lifestyle factors.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 3:56 pm to stelly1025
I had the exact same thing. It’s called a PFO. Had it fixed 3 1/2 years ago. I wouldn’t call it bad luck because you survived , like me, but now it’s fixed. The hole never closed between left and right chambers of the heart when I was born. Apparently the flap is open when in the womb.
This post was edited on 6/4/25 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 6/4/25 at 4:02 pm to GumboPot
quote:The shutdown was unprecedented in modern history. Millions of kids spent the majority of their high school or college years locked away in their rooms. People whose only exercise was walking to and from their cars and from their desks to the vending machine were no longer doing even that. Doordash exploded. Parks and gyms were closed in many places. Youth sports came to a halt, and when they resumed the participation rates cratered. People were stressed, businesses were closing. People were losing their jobs and more uncertain than ever about their futures. Depression skyrocketed.
Yes, but to double the stroke rate? Seems excessive.
COVID itself.
I'd be surprised if the rate of people suffering from sedentary and obesity related diseases didn't accelerate over that time period and honestly puzzled as to how this is so shocking for you.
This post was edited on 6/4/25 at 4:05 pm
Posted on 6/4/25 at 4:08 pm to crazy4lsu
quote:Could you elaborate on this? Only because I'm interested, independent of this discussion. Not for arguments sake.
The other major risk factor is the sheer amount of people who have various genetic bleeding disorders. An insane proportion of the population is at risk, especially when you include lifestyle factors.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 4:13 pm to northshorebamaman
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The shutdown was unprecedented in modern history. Millions of kids spent the majority of their high school or college years locked away in their rooms. People whose only exercise was walking to and from their cars and from their desks to the vending machine were no longer doing even that. Doordash exploded. Parks and gyms were closed in many places. Youth sports came to a halt, and when they resumed the participation rates cratered. People were stressed, businesses were closing. People were losing their jobs and more uncertain than ever about their futures. Depression skyrocketed.
This is why I've shared with anybody gives this shite at this point that I think the shutdown did more damage to me than the stroke itself because you're supposed to start therapy and get moving again and I did not get any of that until about two years after the stroke because of the shutdown
Why I was warning against this shutdown in January of 20 on this board months before I had the stroke
The shutdown was the single worst decision any president has ever made and I don't dislike Trump it was just the wrong decision
Posted on 6/4/25 at 4:32 pm to OWLFAN86
quote:
shitty some of you are bald
Not bald yet. Getting really grey but not bald.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 4:36 pm to northshorebamaman
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Could you elaborate on this?
Basically, a large number of people have what are called inherited thrombophilias. This leads to the possibility of hypercoagulable states, which is one portion of Virchow's Triad. Virchow's Triad describes the factors leading to clot formation. Other factors include circulatory stasis and endothelial injury (injury to the cells that line blood vessels).
My view is that most often, these inherited thrombophilias exist as a spectrum, and in the right environmental milieu, such as in the presence of risk factors which increase inflammation, you can see an increase in thrombotic events in those individuals who already have a genetic predisposition for hypercoagulability.
The rates of these inherited thrombophilias are relatively high as far as genetics go, with some populations having much higher rates of Factor V Leiden dysfunction. The number of people who may have a moderate possibility of dysfunction can be something like 1:500, which is very common in the clinical sense.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 4:38 pm to Caddo
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I had the exact same thing. It’s called a PFO. Had it fixed 3 1/2 years ago.
My wife had this, patent foramen ovale. Doctors discovered it when she was pregnant. Had it fixed about 10 years ago. I'm sure it reduced her risk of stroke.
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Apparently the flap is open when in the womb.
You don't use your lungs as a fetus so the blood bypasses the lungs and goes directly to the brain. When you start breathing it's supposed to close so the blood gets directed to the lungs to get oxygenated.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 4:39 pm to crazy4lsu
So, I can be screened for inherited predisposition?
Posted on 6/4/25 at 4:40 pm to GumboPot
Some of us recognized this early and tried to sound the alarm. Some listened. Some did not. No one regrets not taking the shot.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 4:40 pm to GumboPot
quote:
Why so many people are having strokes in their 20s, 30s and 40S?
Maybe it was the worldwide pandemic where we were exposed to a virus grown in a lab
Posted on 6/4/25 at 4:47 pm to OWLFAN86
quote:Agreed. Although I'll admit I really didn't know what to think or who to believe the first few months.
This is why I've shared with anybody gives this shite at this point that I think the shutdown did more damage to me than the stroke itself because you're supposed to start therapy and get moving again and I did not get any of that until about two years after the stroke because of the shutdown
Why I was warning against this shutdown in January of 20 on this board months before I had the stroke
Posted on 6/4/25 at 4:51 pm to northshorebamaman
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and honestly puzzled as to how this is so shocking for you.
I'm not going to ignore comorbidity behaviors but I don't believe they paint the full picture. The mRNA vaxx fills in a lot of gaps.
For example:
Significant Increase in Excess Deaths after Repeated COVID-19 Vaccination in Japan
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Japan recorded one of the world’s highest rates of COVID-19 vaccination doses per capita, amounting to 3.6 doses as of March 2024
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After the emergence of the Omicron variant, however, the number of infections surged dramatically in Japan in 2022, despite more than 80% of the population having been fully vaccinated. Surprisingly, the number of excess deaths per million in Japan exceeded 1400 in 2023, three times higher than that in the United States, whereas COVID-19 deaths in Japan accounted for only 10% of these excess deaths
Posted on 6/4/25 at 4:51 pm to northshorebamaman
Generally screening for these disorders is usually reactive, after a thrombotic event. In the cases that they are preventative, they are mostly aimed at people beginning contraception or wanting to get pregnant. The general prevention guidelines in the absence of a venous thrombotic event are mostly the same as general lifestyle recommendations, such as losing weight, smoking cessation, avoiding hormones (such as testosterone and estrogen) and things to avoid circulatory stasis such as wearing compression stockings.
You can bring it up to your PCP and see what they think, especially if you are having symptoms. Otherwise, the usual lifestyle factors are the best prevention, at least at a population level.
You can bring it up to your PCP and see what they think, especially if you are having symptoms. Otherwise, the usual lifestyle factors are the best prevention, at least at a population level.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 4:52 pm to SmackoverHawg
quote:I never got one, just because I hate shots. Although someone I met just happened to have the shot record of a guy with my name that they gave to me so I could go to games and other places that required a shot record.
No one regrets not taking the shot.
This post was edited on 6/4/25 at 4:53 pm
Posted on 6/4/25 at 4:57 pm to GumboPot
What's the absolute risk increase?
There was a study from the 1990s reporting that hormone replacement therapy during menopause was associated with a 25% higher likelihood of cervical cancer. Everyone freaked out and warned against HRT.
But the absolute risk increase was minimal. 4 out of 1,000 patients who didn't use HRT would likely get the cancer, while 5 out of 1,000 who did use HRT would likely get it.
So while the relative risk increase was seemingly high, the practical change was minimal.
There was a study from the 1990s reporting that hormone replacement therapy during menopause was associated with a 25% higher likelihood of cervical cancer. Everyone freaked out and warned against HRT.
But the absolute risk increase was minimal. 4 out of 1,000 patients who didn't use HRT would likely get the cancer, while 5 out of 1,000 who did use HRT would likely get it.
So while the relative risk increase was seemingly high, the practical change was minimal.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 5:08 pm to GumboPot
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Rate of change before the vaccine: plus 3.6% Rate of change after the vaccine: plus 7.3%
Which would make sense if Covid was causing it. The more people who got Covid, the more it would increase. And you could pick any point in time after that and see a much bigger increase afterwards than before, if you were dealing with even a linearly increasing graph.
You were seeing the vaccine, because you want to see the vaccine. But a phenomenon that started before the vaccine cannot be caused by the vaccine.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 5:08 pm to SmackoverHawg
quote:True
No one regrets not taking the shot.
Dead people have no regrets
Posted on 6/4/25 at 6:23 pm to soccerfüt
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Does actually having to write this out make you realize how trashy it is?
You’re not remotely as funny as you think you are.
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