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Why More Couples Are Signing Postnuptial Agreements.

Posted on 4/28/17 at 3:27 pm
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
70078 posts
Posted on 4/28/17 at 3:27 pm
I have a friend that conned his wife into signing one of these after getting cheated on and he got good leverage. Any stories from you ladies and gents?

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He cheats. She wants a divorce. He pleads for forgiveness. She’ll stay, for a price: If they ever do divorce, she wants the house, the car, and a hefty slice of their other assets. That kind of deal is possible with a postnuptial agreement, a legal contract between spouses who intend to stay together on what happens if their marriage ends. Also known as a postmarital agreement, it’s an increasingly popular variant of the prenuptial agreements that engaged couples have been signing for decades.

Couples often have very different reasons for signing postnups than prenups. And because postnups are newer and less common, it’s harder to predict whether courts will enforce one.

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Still, postnups are getting more popular. Half of the members of the American Academy of Matrimonial Lawyers said in a survey in late 2015 that they were being asked to write more postnups. Just 2 percent said they were handling fewer.

There are two common reasons why couples come to Ravdin looking for a postnup, she said. Sometimes they just run out of time before their weddings to get a regular prenup and seek a postnup instead—obviously a mistake, given how much harder postnups are to enforce. The other common reason, she said: “A couple is estranged, but they’re willing to take a chance on a reconciliation.” Sometimes the problem is adultery or some other malfeasance. Couples may even be living separately but want to work out some way they can stay married—for the kids, or just to avoid the hassle of a messy divorce. The agreement, Ravdin said, is essentially: "'If this doesn’t work out, and we split up, here’s what our rights and obligations are going to be at that point.'"

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Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
98700 posts
Posted on 4/28/17 at 3:32 pm to
So what do those currently married couples who can't agree on the post-nuptials do? Divorce?
Posted by Radiojones
The Twilight Zone
Member since Feb 2007
10728 posts
Posted on 4/28/17 at 3:36 pm to
This seems like a terrible idea to me. If your wife caught you cheating and wants you to agree to give her more than half what is preventing her from just walking out a week later with all of your stuff?
Posted by tigerbandpiccolo
Member since Oct 2005
49482 posts
Posted on 4/28/17 at 3:36 pm to
To me this looks more like an agreement to gain leverage.

I.e. You promise not to ever cheat again? Ok, if I decide to endure the emotional warfare of coming back and making this work, and you do it again, I get xyz. Perhaps it could be a little extra deterrent so that the cheater doesn't repeat their mistake?
Posted by Garfield
Kew Gardens
Member since Dec 2011
7820 posts
Posted on 4/28/17 at 3:37 pm to
I've been married for a decade plus. I'd sign anything just to get my wife to have sex with me.
Posted by tigerbandpiccolo
Member since Oct 2005
49482 posts
Posted on 4/28/17 at 3:37 pm to
It seems like there would need to be language in the contract to prevent that type of thing.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
45534 posts
Posted on 4/28/17 at 3:40 pm to
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And because postnups are newer and less common, it’s harder to predict whether courts will enforce one.


If a young mom with kids and a good lawyer is getting the raw end of one it's pretty easy to predict that the courts won't enforce it.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
98700 posts
Posted on 4/28/17 at 3:41 pm to
quote:

To me this looks more like an agreement to gain leverage.


Maybe the split of assets would be skewed in one's favor if there was a situation down the road.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 4/28/17 at 3:41 pm to
quote:

If a young mom with kids and a good lawyer is getting the raw end of one it's pretty easy to predict that the courts won't enforce it.

fricking truth right here.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
26325 posts
Posted on 4/28/17 at 3:47 pm to
quote:

She’ll stay, for a price: If they ever do divorce, she wants the house, the car, and a hefty slice of their other assets. That kind of deal is possible with a postnuptial agreement, a legal contract between spouses who intend to stay together on what happens if their marriage ends


So if he actually agreed to this and signs a post-nupt, then what's to stop her from leaving him right after that...with a whole lot more than the 1/2 she otherwise would've gotten? I bet she's read "Art of the Deal"
Posted by LSUweights
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2014
3600 posts
Posted on 4/28/17 at 3:49 pm to
I got my wife to sign one before we married 2 years ago
Very basic
Just says that in the even of a divorce, I keep my stuff, she keeps hers. No one owes the other anything, and the state gets nothing. House is mine because I bought it before we started dating

Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
64548 posts
Posted on 4/28/17 at 3:52 pm to
quote:

If a young mom with kids and a good lawyer is getting the raw end of one it's pretty easy to predict that the courts won't enforce it.



Yep.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
45534 posts
Posted on 4/28/17 at 3:52 pm to
What happens if you get divorced in 20 years after you move and almost everything is co-owned?
Posted by LSUweights
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2014
3600 posts
Posted on 4/28/17 at 3:58 pm to
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What happens if you get divorced in 20 years after you move and almost everything is co-owned?


In the event of a new house, kids, etc..
I get the house, she gets the condo
We each keep our own car
50/50 custody with kids
She said no child support or alimony. She didn't want the kids to see us fight about it and grow to have issues.

Then she tells me a few weeks ago... "You're never getting rid of me. We are stuck together for life"
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
45421 posts
Posted on 4/28/17 at 3:59 pm to
Plot twist. She cheats. You make her sign one states if she does it again (hard to prove) you get joint custody of the kids, all of your retirement, have of the assets, and no spouse support.
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