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re: Why isn't farming and gardening a required course for school kids?

Posted on 3/10/16 at 9:38 am to
Posted by LucasP
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Posted on 3/10/16 at 9:38 am to
Same reason we don't teach blacksmithing or technique on a cotton gin, it's 2016.
Posted by Barf
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Posted on 3/10/16 at 9:39 am to
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I rarely see anyone with food gardens at their homes anymore. It's because nobody knows how to even get one started anymore.





A few hours of gardening instruction would probably be enough for a lifetime. At the very least it will give people the confidence to plat flowers in the garden of their first home. If my neighbor had taken a gardening class maybe he wouldn't be bringing my property value down.
Posted by Peazey
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Posted on 3/10/16 at 9:40 am to
For the vast majority of people gardening will never be anything more than a hobby. That said, at a nice school it would make sense as an extracurricular club or something or maybe an elective.
Posted by LasVegasTiger
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Posted on 3/10/16 at 9:42 am to
Ag class in high school was my favorite class. Got up to Ag IV. Learned to garden, play craps, drive a tractor, play spades, farm, drink beer in the greenhouse. My senior year I needed 5 hours to play sports. So I took Ag twice.

Mr. Moe Richmond FTW!
This post was edited on 3/10/16 at 9:43 am
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
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Posted on 3/10/16 at 10:00 am to
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For the vast majority of people gardening will never be anything more than a hobby. That said, at a nice school it would make sense as an extracurricular club or something or maybe an elective.




Basically this. I enjoy gardening, and a few other things that help me feel a little more self-sufficient, but 99% of the time you can't grow food for cheaper than you can buy it. You do it because you enjoy the hobby, like the taste of fresh vegetables, or have some personal views on organic stuff. You wouldn't really be teaching kids a life skill, you would be teaching them a hobby. It's a cool one, but a hobby none the less.

I do agree with a few other posters that a personal finance class should be mandatory, and vocational classes should make a comeback in high schools. Everyone, from any walk of life, can benefit from knowing how to check a car's fluid levels and that a tripped breaker doesn't mean the house is broken.
Posted by AUCE05
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Posted on 3/10/16 at 10:02 am to
Because no one goes into farming. This isn't 1920
Posted by XanderCrews
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Posted on 3/10/16 at 10:04 am to
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Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 3/10/16 at 10:15 am to
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classes in personal finance


that's a huge need

it's amazing how many people are clueless when it comes to money and just basic budgeting


people that are otherwise very smart
Posted by BayouBengal6884
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Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 3/10/16 at 10:40 am to
I was in FFA in Jr HS
I helped my elderly grandmother do all of her yard work from age 12-18

Now that I'm married with kids and have my own house I've started my own garden and my kids love helping out

We grow onions, green onions, parsley, cucumbers, tomato, lettuce, celery, and cilantro

We will be expanding our garden in the coming weeks
Posted by bigpetedatiga
Alexandria, LA
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 3/10/16 at 10:44 am to
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i'm not even saying everyone who takes the courses should become farmers. shite,it's a great thing to do around the house. I rarely see anyone with food gardens at their homes anymore. It's because nobody knows how to even get one started anymore.


Part of the bigger way of thinking. They shut down car shop, the nursing programs, the wood working programs, all throughout.
Posted by SpeckledTiger
Denham Springs
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 3/10/16 at 10:44 am to
why do people expect school systems to be the sole educators? If you want your kids to know how to farm, get off your arse and teach them. If it is a real need, enough people will teach their children the skill and the ignorance will resolve itself. Quit being so dependent and put forth some effort.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 3/10/16 at 10:46 am to
Could be cool. I think high school kids should have to take logic.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
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Posted on 3/10/16 at 10:51 am to
Yea schools need to take note of what happened in Interstellar
Posted by CelticDog
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Posted on 3/10/16 at 10:53 am to
yes. should be mandatory for all for several years.

the reason is class consciousness. pretentious parents want their kids in college prep classes.



Posted by Aux Arc
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 3/10/16 at 10:53 am to
"Life Skills" should be a required class. Basic econ/finance, small engine troubleshooting, how to jump start a car and change a tire, basics of home systems (gas, water, electric). Serious harm can be avoided by having a basic understanding of these things.
Posted by Tdot_RiverDawg
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 3/10/16 at 10:54 am to
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Basically this. I enjoy gardening, and a few other things that help me feel a little more self-sufficient, but 99% of the time you can't grow food for cheaper than you can buy it. You do it because you enjoy the hobby, like the taste of fresh vegetables, or have some personal views on organic stuff. You wouldn't really be teaching kids a life skill, you would be teaching them a hobby. It's a cool one, but a hobby none the less.


I disagree, there are a ton of life lessons that can be learned from gardening and applied to other parts of life....from measuring and laying out a garden bed, the discipline it takes to grow flowers and fruit, lessons about soils and fertilizers, and the sense of accomplishment that comes from starting and completing a project. Not only those things, but it's gets the kids out of the house and active and is a great time for family bonding.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 3/10/16 at 11:03 am to
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Same reason we don't teach blacksmithing or technique on a cotton gin, it's 2016.


There is an extreme difference in the need for blacksmithing/cotton gin vs gardening.

Gardens are very popular and useful to the average person. blacksmithing and working a cotton gin, not so much
Posted by maisweh
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 3/10/16 at 11:11 am to
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I certainly would have liked the option if that had been available to me when I was in high school.

we had FFA, Ag, Marine Operations, welding, shop... plus college prep, ACT prep and a few classes about putting together computers.
pretty sure we're the only HS I know of that had Marine Operations got out of that class with a few days sea time plus a few credits and my boaters safety card

edit: wish I would have taken welding instead of ACT/college prep.
This post was edited on 3/10/16 at 11:27 am
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
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Posted on 3/10/16 at 12:40 pm to
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from measuring and laying out a garden bed, the discipline it takes to grow flowers and fruit, lessons about soils and fertilizers, and the sense of accomplishment that comes from starting and completing a project.


What I meant is it's a project, like anything else. Lots of school projects require discipline and learning new skills. Unless they apply what they learned to growing pot, gardening in 2016 isn't generally a skill that's gonna save someone money or allow them to make money in the future, it's a hobby. Gardening is actually pretty expensive when you start keeping track of it.
Posted by BR Tiger
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Posted on 3/10/16 at 1:00 pm to
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"Life Skills" should be a required class. Basic econ/finance, small engine troubleshooting, how to jump start a car and change a tire, basics of home systems (gas, water, electric). Serious harm can be avoided by having a basic understanding of these things.


Absolutely. It should be a required class every year. And no distinction between boys and girls. Everyone learns how to cook. Everyone learns how to change tires and oil. Everyone learns how their house is built and how he systems work and how to install a light fixture, switch, and outlet.

Home ec and shop used to be staples in HS for everyone. We need to get back to that principle updated for the 21st century.
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