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re: Why is it that nobody questions the 10 million Stalin killed, or the 30 mil Mao killed?

Posted on 3/10/26 at 6:32 am to
Posted by Marshhen
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Posted on 3/10/26 at 6:32 am to
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Fauci: give me a break. Including him discredits your post entirely. Have you ever met the man??


It’s an ugly truth but have you read what he did during the AIDS crisis?
Posted by The Ostrich
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Posted on 3/10/26 at 6:43 am to
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Fauci: give me a break. Including him discredits your post entirely. Have you ever met the man??


Why? Cause he didn’t use firing squads and gas chambers?
Posted by StringedInstruments
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Posted on 3/10/26 at 6:50 am to
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Why is it that nobody questions the 10 million Stalin killed, or the 30 mil Mao killed?


Who isn’t questioning those regimes? They’re pretty wildly regarded as some of the worst political leaders of all time who brought terror and death to their people.

We focus more on Hitler because 1) he was the direct enemy of the United Stares in a war we were involved in; 2) Germany is more relatable to Western society than Russia and China; 3) he created a war machine that was launched against an entire continent.

Mao and Stalin were more ideological problems than villains to the United States. Hitler was damn near a cartoon character with their propaganda, conquest, and Holocaust.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 3/10/26 at 6:53 am to
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Nobody questions this?
Correct, Nobody questions the numbers from the specific events I presented

Not like Holocaust deniers

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Ever read a book or take a history class in college?
I have a Master's degree in History.

So I am going to say yes.

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Those two are considered some of the worst mass murderers in history.
Correct. What are you arguing here?
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 3/10/26 at 6:57 am to
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They’re pretty wildly regarded as some of the worst political leaders of all time who brought terror and death to their people.

This is not contending with anything I said. You are arfuing a different point

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Who isn’t questioning those regimes?
I am not talking about the evilness of regimes, I am talking about bodycounts
Posted by nealnan8
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Posted on 3/10/26 at 7:12 am to
Sorry, I thought that you were framing this against our actions in Iran, as opposed to your point about Holocaust deniers. Some have pointed out that we should not be concerned about civilian deaths in Iran, because in past wars, millions have been killed.
Posted by Toroballistic
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Posted on 3/10/26 at 7:50 am to
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Fauci: give me a break. Including him discredits your post entirely. Have you ever met the man??



I never met any of them. Why is that important?
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 3/10/26 at 8:16 am to
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Bonnie Bleu?
A really gross whore

It was a joke
This post was edited on 3/10/26 at 8:17 am
Posted by deltaland
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Posted on 3/10/26 at 8:45 am to
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Why is it that nobody questions the 10 million Stalin killed, or the 30 mil Mao killed?


The difference is Hitler ordered the mass execution of Jews while the Holodomor and Great Leap Forward were attempts to industrialize the economies and collectivize agriculture which led to mass starvation. It was never proven in any documents that the govt ordered the starvations, but rather it was a result of terrible policy.

Not that it lessens the impact and all events were horrible, but that’s why Hitler gets more focus.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 3/10/26 at 10:04 am to
This is wrong. GLF was partially due to collectivism, but also direct murders of the academics, industrialists, business owners, bankers, et al

That was the point of the GLF. They wanted to eliminate those that knew how the old system worked.

Holodomor was collectivism superficially. Nevermind the fact that Stalin withheld grain meant to feed Ukrainians, in order to export to bolster his bank account. He targeted Ukraine because they supported the White Army.
This post was edited on 3/10/26 at 10:10 am
Posted by ChiefCornerstone
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Posted on 3/11/26 at 11:14 pm to
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It’s an ugly truth but have you read what he did during the AIDS crisis?

Seriously!! Have you ever met the man?? Like met him where you could ask your tinfoil hat questions and get answers. Or do you just rely on what you read that someone else you don’t know wrote.

It’s a legitimate question. And if you haven’t, and I have, then don’t believe everything you read.
Posted by ChiefCornerstone
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Posted on 3/11/26 at 11:28 pm to
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I never met any of them. Why is that important?

Thank you for asking a legitimate question.

First, do you know anything about epidemics, pandemics, viruses, and the spread of those viruses.

Second, do you know anything about how viruses spread? Do you know why SARS 1, with its 9% mortality didn’t spread to more than a few countries? Or MERS and its 30% mortality and why it didn't spread beyond one country?

Third, do you understand what the R0 number is and why it’s important (Covid 19’s number was about 1.3-1.7. Measles has an R0 number somewhere between 18-33)?

Fourth, do you understand that even the Ancient Greeks knew how to contain and isolate pandemics when they started? There’s a reason they were never completely overwhelmed by Smallpox or Ebola.

Fifth, do you understand how deadly viruses work? Do you know about cleavage sites and mutation proof readers? Did you know the 1918 flu pandemic virus had neither by the way?

tldr: Reagan and all those young Republicans who were voted in in the early 80’s refused to fund AIDS research. Let em die they said.
This post was edited on 3/12/26 at 12:04 am
Posted by ChiefCornerstone
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Posted on 3/11/26 at 11:59 pm to
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This is wrong. GLF was partially due to collectivism, but also direct murders of the academics, industrialists, business owners, bankers, et al That was the point of the GLF. They wanted to eliminate those that knew how the old system worked.

Back to the original thread. This is the answer about Stalin.

I have a friend who is Cambodian. He survived the “killing fields” as a 12 year old. The Khmer Rouge took his father out into the street and shot him in the head in front of his family. Why?? His Dad was what we would know as the “president of the local bank”. In other words, he represented the old system and how the money was supposed to work etc. He was a threat to communism.
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