re: Why HBCU should exist: They are part of Southern History

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I was saying that I can endure the fact that you want to keep your statues as long as HBCU exists academically in some form.

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Except I don't care about those statues at all.

I don't oppose HBCUs, but if people want those schools, then the statues have to stay. Those schools are as much a symbol of the racism and segregation that existed in this country as the statues. But HYPOCRITES don't see it that way.

I commend you on being diplomatic about this, but what's done is done. If the statues are gone, the HBCUs should be gone. They have no place in this PC world that is being created. Why have any reminder of the way things were?

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Those schools are as much a symbol of the racism and segregation

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How so? Weren't HBCU's created because blacks weren't allowed to go to 'regular' colleges? Seems more like a product of racism against blacks than the other way around?

XULA produces majority of pharmacists in the gulf coast surprisingly.

Also puts in a lot of good, qualified students into graduate schools and professional schools.

One of the best neurosurgeons in the gulf coast was a XULA graduate

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They are a symbol of the way things used to be. Blacks want to be equal in every way to whites, they don't want anything that represents the past that discriminated against them, but they are completely ok with institutions continuing that were only formed because of that discrimination.

It's hypocritical. They want to erase the past that offends them, but are ok with anything that spawned from that past.

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So years ago, we didn't let blacks go to our schools. They want to be educated so they go and build their own schools. Now it's 2017 and what are they supposed to do? Tear down all these universities just to make the whites feel better?

And just so you know, any white person is allowed to enroll at a HBCU. Most just choose not to

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You do know that white people can go to those universities don’t you?

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Yes, but I fail to see why that is relevant. I never argued that the institution itself is racist or discriminatory.

Honestly, it isn't even a race thing to me. How many of those Universities actually provide a better education than another school of similar size? Is anyone choosing Grambling or Southern over Tulane or LSU? Two brothers in Opelousas just got accepted to Harvard and Stanford. Does anyone thing they would choose Howard or Xavier over Harvard or Stanford?

So what real purpose do they serve?

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Is anyone choosing Grambling or Southern over Tulane or LSU? Two brothers in Opelousas just got accepted to Harvard and Stanford. Does anyone thing they would choose Howard or Xavier over Harvard or Stanford?

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Honestly it boils down to a few reasons

1. Costs and Location

Some people prefer the lower cost and for whatever reason find it in their best interest not to relocate. The HBCU happens to be in better proximity.

2. Career path

To be brief, what the school offers its student may be more appealing.

For instance, people bring up XULA as a better HBCU. While true, it is focused primarily in medical sciences. I actually considered XULA, but they didn't offer what I was looking for.

Nothing is wrong with that, but if a school isn't offering something in your range of interests, why go ?

As to the Harvard / Stanford comment, it is great that they made it in. Hopefully they pick fulfilling majors. I am not knocking IVY caliber schools.

However many IVY grads who have admitted that unemployment or unfufilling jobs can still happen to them. Major can matter more when it comes to career goals. You go to those schools to establish 1st class connections.

Don't take my word for it, do your own research. An objectively better school isn't best for everyone.

3. Social Inclination.

Irony that I have to repeat this, but people flock towards their own.

I have mostly white friends. But most people want to be around their own kind (ie race, SE status, religion, etc.). Their is a sense of community I get around other smart blacks that is different than at a traditional school.

That's prejudicial, not racist.

To be fair, if I applied myself more, I could probably still get into Hampton or Morehouse. (I've got the research background for it). And work experience can be very helpful for certain graduate programs.

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But most people want to be around their own kind (ie race, SE status, religion, etc.). Their is a sense of community I get around other smart blacks that is different than at a traditional school.

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Exactly. White kid wants to go to a historically white school and it's no big deal. Black kid wants to go to a HBCU and it's racist.

It’s a small school, but there are those who love it.