re: Why have churches started allowing gay preachers?

There are good articles out there explaining the history of this. The opposition was fueled by African and Asian congregations, which must have been ironic to the UMC missionaries that seeded those congregations.

After several years of stalemate on LGBTQ issues, an agreement was made for the orderly exit of conservative congregations. It’s complicated because of church property and clergy pension issues. But that occurred over the last couple of years. Hence the votes this week.

My church voted to stay in UMC so a lot of people left for other churches. But a lot of new people have joined and church numbers and finances are about the same as before. I don’t like the new vote and will probably find a new home, but the vote isn’t the primary factor. The UMC rules about moving pastors around are tiresome with us on our 3rd in 5 years.

I think it’s just a sorting process that will take some time. I think the general trend of the decline of organized religion in western culture is the issue. The developing world is where the energy is at for Christianity.

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extremely low overhead

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You still have electricity, insurance, salaries, building maintenance. It ain't cheap.

They've been infiltrated by Satan.

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Just saw something on the news saying Methodist churches will allow gays to be in the ministry. If that’s how you wanna live your life, go ahead but that is completely against Christian living. How can they condone someone living in sin this way? Makes no sense to me, the day baptists start allowing it will be the last time I’ll walk through those doors

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I suspect if you did some research into the life of preachers you'd find they do things against Christian living at about the same rate as laymen.

I'd also posit there has most likely ALWAYS been gay preachers in the Methodist church or any other. Lots of gay folks in the world. The difference is them being openly gay I guess. Still gay either way.

Finally, you can rest assured there are gay Baptist preachers and at least some of them are known to their congregation to be gay and to the Church itself.

It started on the early 1900's. Go read about Harry F. Ward, a Methodist minister and theological seminary professor. He was an open communist and a founder of the Federal Council of Churches. He spent time in Russia and was good friends with Lenin. Not only was he in the FCC but he was the ACLU's first chairman. Later he resigned when the ACLU pretended to kick out communists.

In 1950, the FCC merged with other groups to form the National Council of Churches (NCC), but their communist agenda did not cease. In the 1960's the NCC released several screeds calling for the U.S. to embrace communist China, leave Vietnam alone, and to officially recognize Castro and Cuba. The NCC funnelled money into various communist countries which was used by those regimes for their own purposes. Before 1991, the NCC parroted the Soviet line completely. They never once criticized the Soviets but routinely bashed America.

Today the NCC is still around and especially influential in mainline Protestant churches. If you go to their website, it is nothing but lectures on environmental Justice, how evil whites are, how trans people are wonderful, and how America needs unlimited immigration.

To answer your question: Churches have went crazy because the communist left has worked for decades to get "their people" in leadership positions.

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You are conflating the two issues of sin and living in sin. The issue is openly flaunting it and living in sin, not sin. We all are sinners but to live it openly and flaunt it without repentance is completely different.

Repentance is a change of mind and heart that leads to a change in our action and behavior.

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100%

That said, I don't know a single person who even attempts to follow every rule laid out in scripture. So I might not agree personally, but I'm also not going to be in the business of deciding for other people which verses are worth adhering to and which aren't.

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Because this world has gone mad.

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Couldn't a gay person be in the closet, become a Priest and never tell anyone about his attractions? This scenario has only likely occurred thousands of times

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There was a thread here recently about sex for fun vs. sex for procreation.

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If you read a Bible to actually understand it you would know that sex is not some taboo. It's actually meant to be enjoyed by a married couple and is the primary reason God gave us women.

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which is in Leviticus

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Old covenant. We arent Jews we can eat whatever we want. It may not be profitable but we. Once again open a Bible to understand and you might actually learn something.

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IMO you basically just describe the main fallacy within protestant religions. quote:Luther taught that salvation and, consequently, eternal life are not earned by good deeds; rather, they are received only as the free gift of God's grace through the believer's faith in Jesus Christ, who is the sole redeemer from sin So basically as long as protestants accept Jesus as their savior they will be saved despite their actions? Go read John 8.. Jesus tells us first not to judge others, but after he forgave the adulterous woman, he told her to "go and sin no more". It's pretty straight forward telling us that we are all sinners, but you do have to, at the very least, make an effort to not sin.

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And he also told the sinner on the cross today you shall be with me in paradise. Protestants still say you shouldn’t live in sin, but it does not say good deeds get you into heaven. Living a good life doesn’t get you into heaven. Only through christs salvation shall you enter into the kingdom of heaven