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Why don't home owners need to file a variance with section 8 compensation..?

Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:20 pm
Posted by Hangover Haven
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Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:20 pm
To do anything that may be outside of code when adding on or remodeling a house, the home owner has to file a variance with the surrounding neighbors...

Should there be a law to do it with new section 8 compensations...?

Any lawyers out there that can answer this...?
This post was edited on 1/7/16 at 1:25 pm
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
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Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:26 pm to
No one would ever agree to it.
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:28 pm to
Section 8 is one of the worst programs to ever happen in this country.

Developers who bring in section 8 stuff should be thrown off of a tall building by the community.
This post was edited on 1/7/16 at 1:29 pm
Posted by Horsemeat
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Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:29 pm to
How on earth do you expect the democrats to infiltrate the white folks suburbia in order to change the political trends? Check your privilege, shitlord.
Posted by Hangover Haven
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Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:31 pm to
Is it a known fact that section 8 housing brings down surrounding property values...?
Posted by Artie Rome
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Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:34 pm to
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Developers who bring in section 8 stuff should be thrown off of a tall building by the community.


I've seen you say this a number of times. People don't develop Section 8 housing. All those apartments around Gardere were once occupied by students and faculty and other working class folks.
Posted by notiger1997
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Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:40 pm to
I think some developments are planned to be "low income housing". Hell, there have at times been tax incentives for building this kind of stuff.
Those all suck arse, but I'm thinking most are more worried about how quickly an older subdivision can turn to shite when owners start doing section 8 rentals.
Posted by Hangover Haven
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Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:44 pm to
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I'm thinking most are more worried about how quickly an older subdivision can turn to shite when owners start doing section 8 rentals.


That's what happened in my parents neighborhood after Katrina.. 3 houses down became a section 8 house.. My father was pissed... Had no control and found out afterwards....
Posted by Artie Rome
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Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

Should there be a law to do it with new section 8 compensations...?


To answer your question, that law would never pass and if it did it would not stand. It's federal law that creates the Section 8 voucher.
Posted by kingbob
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Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:49 pm to
quote:

Is it a known fact that section 8 housing brings down surrounding property values...?


Yes. They're like black holes for property values. The reasons are multiple:

1. The tenets aren't paying much for the homes, so they really don't care much about them. They're not responsible to pay for repairs and there's no deposit they're hoping to have refunded, causing them to treat the home like a total piece of shite.

2. There is no incentive for the home owner to maintain the home. They get paid by the government regardless and the tenets don't give a shite if they live in squalor because they're not paying anyways.

3. Homes that look like crap drag down the property values of homes around them.

4. People who don't respect their own property rarely respect the property of others' either. This leads to tenets who are often loud and commit property crimes. Because Section 8 eligibility depends on having below a set amount of money in the bank and below a certain level of income, tenets often engage in illicit businesses in order to subsidize their lifestyles. Crime drags property values down even further.
This post was edited on 1/7/16 at 1:55 pm
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:50 pm to
While I agree with the fact that Section 8 tenets/houses/landlords can be major problems...

I'm not sure I want to go down the road of telling a property owner who he can and cannot rent his house to.
Posted by Hangover Haven
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Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:52 pm to
quote:

To answer your question, that law would never pass and if it did it would not stand. It's federal law that creates the Section 8 voucher.



You're right, unfortunately...

It just pisses me off that it would never happen... I just wish some rep or senator had the balls to bring something up pertaining to this issue... Like not allowing it in older, established neighborhoods..

Hell, they past a law in Metairie not allowing multi dwelling townhouses being built in certain areas..
This post was edited on 1/7/16 at 1:56 pm
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:52 pm to
quote:

People don't develop Section 8 housing. All those apartments around Gardere were once occupied by students and faculty and other working class folks.


People don't "develop" Section 8 housing, but certainly there are landlords that specialize in buying cheap property in bad areas, keep them up to the most minimum of standards, and cash that monthly government Section 8 check.

The other time I see it, and this happened a lot after Katrina, is that a homeowner moved but could not sell the house, and could not rent it out easily, so they just decided to take Section 8 to pay the bills.
Posted by junkfunky
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Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:53 pm to
quote:

Is it a known fact that section 8 housing brings down surrounding property values...?


Probably depends on the current situation of the surrounding property.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
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Posted on 1/7/16 at 2:02 pm to
You all can go read about St Benard Parishes fight against low income housing after Katrina. They fought like hell to stop things, but it got overuled by the Feds.
I think it even led to fines and investigations.
Posted by Artie Rome
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Posted on 1/7/16 at 2:08 pm to
quote:

there are landlords that specialize in buying cheap property in bad areas, keep them up to the most minimum of standards, and cash that monthly government Section 8 check


No doubt about it.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/7/16 at 2:11 pm to
quote:

While I agree with the fact that Section 8 tenets/houses/landlords can be major problems...

I'm not sure I want to go down the road of telling a property owner who he can and cannot rent his house to.


Section 8 is really renting out one's house to the government who then rents it out to a tenet for a super cheap rate. Because they're renting it to the taxpayers in exchange for taxpayer money, the taxpayers should have a say.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
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Posted on 1/7/16 at 2:12 pm to
It is def a slippery slope in that you don't want the government telling people what they can develope or what they can do with their homes, but at some level locals may need a little more say in what is built around them.
Of course if you live in a place with a HOA, there are rules in place to take care of this kind of stuff.
Posted by NOLALGD
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 1/7/16 at 2:13 pm to
quote:

While I agree with the fact that Section 8 tenets/houses/landlords can be major problems...

I'm not sure I want to go down the road of telling a property owner who he can and cannot rent his house to.


Yep, you really want a local government telling you who you can rent to?
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 1/7/16 at 2:15 pm to
quote:


1. The tenets aren't paying much for the homes, so they really don't care much about them. They're not responsible to pay for repairs and there's no deposit they're hoping to have refunded, causing them to treat the home like a total piece of shite.

2. There is no incentive for the home owner to maintain the home. They get paid by the government regardless and the tenets don't give a shite if they live in squalor because they're not paying anyways.

3. Homes that look like crap drag down the property values of homes around them.

4. People who don't respect their own property rarely respect the property of others' either. This leads to tenets who are often loud and commit property crimes. Because Section 8 eligibility depends on having below a set amount of money in the bank and below a certain level of income, tenets often engage in illicit businesses in order to subsidize their lifestyles. Crime drags property values down even further.


Perhaps it's different in different places, but, I've always found the opposite to be true. The waiting list for Section 8 tends to be so long, that tenants are aware of screwing up their precious status and walk a pretty straight and narrow.
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