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re: Why doesn’t New Orleans do more to attract middle-class home buyers?

Posted on 4/26/18 at 3:48 pm to
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
80488 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 3:48 pm to
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JP is stagnant and not that nice but it’s not cheap either.

Are you suggesting that Terrytown, Marrero, and Westwego aren’t nice places?
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
51874 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 3:55 pm to
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It really is insane that not even the more affluent suburbs have a public school you can send your kid to.
this is just wrong...
Posted by ellishughtiger
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Member since Jul 2004
21135 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 4:00 pm to
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You mean who the F is buying all of those $789,000 houses uptown? I find it insane too.


Parents of kids who grew up uptown. A lot of time these houses are gifted to their kids as a tax write off

My wife and I have a pretty sweet house on Henry Clay that belonged to her great uncle. Her parents gave us a really good deal.

Most of our friends who still live uptown were gifted their house or Inherited from a family member.
This post was edited on 4/26/18 at 4:10 pm
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
51874 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 4:18 pm to
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The middle class exists, but it is small or most live in Mandeville which is too far away to be considered New Orleans.
I guess they like Mandeville if they don't want to say they're NOLA, but we all know we see them in the Dome every fall
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
17544 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 4:27 pm to
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Are you suggesting that Terrytown, Marrero, and Westwego aren’t nice places?


Are you suggesting they are?
Posted by CarrolltonTiger
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2005
50291 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 4:31 pm to
Crap schools deter the middle class (or employers that need middle class workers) from coming to New Orleans, the cost of private or Parochial school tuition is like a tax that other functional cites do not impose.

You can't be like Haiti and not expect to be like Haiti.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
51874 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 4:34 pm to
This thread is spending too much time on NOLA as a city and Orleans Parish, when the suburbs are relevant too.

We're a metro area, and we sprawl like anywhere else... Chalmette is sprawl, Destrehan is sprawl, the East is sprawl. At one time, the LGD was sprawl.

And we talk about schools so much that I hope everyone is aware that the students that happen to attend a school are driving the perceptions of them more than what the schools attempt to provide as an education.

I am just never going to accept that the best of what Louisiana has doesn't match up to other places
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 4:40 pm to
Why would hardworking and intelligent people wanna move to NOLA?
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
51874 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 4:44 pm to
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Why would hardworking and intelligent people wanna move to NOLA?
will say that the lower 9th ward and maybe the East will never come back... Arabi is right there. The far reaches of Orleans such as the Venetian Isles are just too far from civilization and will never get the attention they need.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
83890 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 4:45 pm to
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I am just never going to accept that the best of what Louisiana has doesn't match up to other places


I have always had the desire to move back to LA, unfortunately, the more I go back I'm more glad that it's just for a visit, I won't stop going back, but don't see moving back, I just had to spend a week in my hometown a few weeks ago and it was depressing as shite, I'll keep coming back, but I don't think I'll ever move back
Posted by Houma Sapien
up the bayou
Member since Jul 2013
1688 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 4:50 pm to
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Better than bitching about someone else bitching. His OP as why doesn't New Orleans have more middle class housing. That's a fair question and not really bitching.



Couldn't answer the question, could you Hoss?
Posted by Chitter Chatter
In and Out of Consciousness
Member since Sep 2009
4664 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:57 pm to
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Louisiana should be just as prosperous as Texas in terms of multiple industries along with the backbone of O & G but the laissez faire attitude of native Louisianians will never allow that to cultivate.


I have a friend who worked for the state. He told me that outside of Texas and Florida, no other state in the south brings in more money than Louisiana. He kept asking 'what do we have to show for it?' He only saw the incoming numbers - he couldn't tell you where it went from there but he had some guesses as to where a good chunk of it went
Posted by RedPop4
Santiago de Compostela
Member since Jan 2005
14783 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 9:31 am to
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New Orleans never was and never will grow in the same manner as a Dallas, Atlanta or Houston simply because of geography. (and who would want that anyway?) Sprawl, while not desirable, is necessary to achieve that kind of growth and create the kind of environments of America's newer cities. These cities are seen as desirable by some because they have the space to afford people the opportunity to insulate themselves as much as they deem adequate to live their lives without interaction with undesirables. I get it. But it always surprises me that so many people don't understand why people love New Orleans, and even love living there. While you may value a quiet life in a sterile environment, which is not a bad thing... the fact of the matter is that there are many who desire a little more flavor and differentiation, and are willing to put up with some bad stuff to be able to be closer to the things that interest them. I really don't understand why this simple idea fuels so much debate on here. People have different interests, like different places, etc. Just the way it is. This post was edited on 4/26 at 10:52 am


Lake on one side, River surrounding the other side, and swamps east and west...it's the elephant in the room. Where we gonna go?
Posted by TSmith
New Orleans, La.
Member since Jan 2004
2000 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 10:02 am to
Interesting question: What would New Orleans be like if Lake Pontchartrain weren't there, and instead was solid ground +5-15 ft. elevation. Geography has a whole lot to do with the supposed ills.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
21564 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 10:06 am to
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A lot of time these houses are gifted to their kids as a tax write off


What’s that now?
Posted by tigercross
Member since Feb 2008
4936 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 10:30 am to
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What’s that now?


I too am interested in the mechanics of this purported "tax write off".
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
117295 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:04 am to
It's the white privilege write off
This post was edited on 4/27/18 at 11:04 am
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 12:19 pm to
People seriously underestimate the effect that land constraints places on a city like New Orleans. When there's no place to expand and build new developments and homes it squeezes the housing stock when there's a demand since you cant expand Supply and therefore prices soar.
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